Ely: you think Clinton was a "total creep, but was a good president." What did he do that causes you to believe he was a good president? I'm really interested.

Kevin: Clinton happens to be the last poor president we had. That's why I criticize him. He was a great PR president, but I think history will show he was one of the worst presidents in U. S. history. He had the potential to be among the best, but he screwed up (pun not intended). Why? IMO, because he cared more about himself than he did his country.

DougR