Dear Joe, Kev, Shambles, ... there is only way to settle this in a civilized fasion... the Azores is the most central location between us all, I propose we check into a pub on the Azores ... bring instruments, and discuss this whole silly thing. Of course, we may have to opt for cost to determine the closest point between us all, as I think flights to the Azores may be a bit expensive, and you never know who you may run into, for example, if Blair, Bush and the other guy happen to show up, well, it may get rowdy. Cheers guys... Larry PS Don't get crazy with each other... life is not about the hard edges.