You are right Hrothgar. However, if you are looking for integrity and moral strength, you may have to look a little further than Dubya. Some of us can remember what happened to Jimmy Carter when he told the American public that they did not have the right to use up the world's oil resources.In any event, I wouldn't look to Dubya for any sort of leadership. He is essentially a follower. He played to the yob element in his gallery after the September 11th attacks. A strong leader would have had the bottle to tell the public that it would take time to identify the culprits and make America safe. Unfortunately, America has a president with a weak mind and a strong military machine. That is why we are at war.