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Thread #57895   Message #915964
Posted By: saulgoldie
22-Mar-03 - 09:44 AM
Thread Name: BS: Protests in case of attack on Iraq
Subject: RE: BS: Protests in case of attack on Iraq
Judy R,
You don't really believe that a few handsful of Greenies "gave" it to Shrub, do you? First of all, the Green votes were spread around and were not enough that if Gore had them he woulda won. Second, and this is a sad truth that the Dems *still* tragically do not understand, many Green votes are from people who either haven't voted much before because they felt there were no choices for them or would not have voted for Gore, anyway. Let's remember that he brought problems of his own making to the election, including his personality and some of his positions.

Third, Greens had absolutely nothing to do with the Fla/Sup Ct. vote theft debacle. And fourth, as I have watched the Dems limp along through the recent election, and several rounds of endorsing some very nasty parts of the Repub program, among them the tax cut and Ashcroft, I still have not seen and do not see the kind of strong voice for traditional Democratic values and positions that would make me vote and donate enthusiastically to the party. Again, while there are some significant differences between the parties, the Dems have so steadily moved away from me for so many years that I now look pink.
Nevertheless, a strong majority of Americans asked in neutral questions about most issues that would be "owned" by Dems, they tend to support the Dem position. So clearly the crux of the biscuit is forceful presentation as well, of course, as actually taking those positions and holding them dear.