I'd be interested to know where Lloyd got his tune; do please add any information you come up with. I may easily have missed something that is well-known elsewhere; it was only a couple of years ago, for example, that I noticed that the tune Lloyd used for his Jack Orion was the same one that Andy Stewart used for Donald Where's your Trousers (and I still don't know what it's really called)! I did work out where Andy Irvine got the tune for Willy of Winsbury all by myself, but I'm sure that plenty of other people knew already.