Blackcatter wrote:

Peg said: I am sure he wanted to express the joy of that moment in every way he could.

I guess I should be thankfull that all he chose to do was plant a long kiss on Halle. Seems you might have granted him even more.
--why do you say that? No need for you to speculate onmy behalf; it "seems" you are doing so to make yourself feel justified in this.


I was the person who first mentioned that I thought his action was unfortunate. I did see him being nice to her as they walked off stage.
--and she was being nice to him.

I also saw him in the interview room bragging about it and saying something to the effect that you have the take the chance if you get it.
--in what way was he "bragging?" That is YOUR word. What did he say, exactly, to justify this criticism?

Sounds like a man taking advantage of a woman to me. Where I come from, a kiss like that implys a great deal of familiarity between the two. Maybe they have that, I certainly don't know, but I still though it to be demeaning.
--they're ACTORS. Actors engage in love scenes constantly, often with never having met the other person before they start shooting the scene! THEY both knew it was part of the whole performance atmosphere.


Yes the rules are different in Hollywood. And, of course, Halle probably didn't mind it, but it probably happens all the time to her. Women who are repeatedly beaten by their husbands get used to it as well (not to imply that the kiss was anywhere near the same level as spose abuse).
--then why did you make that dumb comparison???


Hell, you know what, I was going to write more, but screw it. The statements above which disagree with mine imply that I didn't really understand it all - I'm sick and tired of people assuming that just because I (or anyone) disagrees with them, they must not have the full understanding.
--I did NOT say you didn't understand, but that perhaps you did not SEE as much of their exchange as I did.
But after reading the rest of yoru comments, I think you really do not understand the social subtleties and implications of the situation...you want to see this as abuse of women. I just don't see it that way.


True that can happen, but having a difference of opinion can come from much more that the basic facts of a situation.
--true enough. But you are making some big leaps in logic, e.g. comparing a kiss to phsyical abuse???

It is insulting to imply that those people who disagree with you are simply ignorant or misinformed.
--I never did that, only suggested you did not have all the information available from watching. But now it sounds like you did see it and still come to the conclusion that Ms. Berry was taken advantage of. I think you're making a big deal out of something which occurs quite naturally in the Hollywood environment.