Re Harvey Andrews having a go at Eliza C and her alleged antipathy to singer-songwriters. No-one (well, hardly anyone) obects to singer-songriters as such, and of course we all value Cyril Tawney songs etc etc. The "anitpathy" only happens when the songwriters become a dominant and defining majority in whatver group is making music. At that point it may become of no interest to those interested primarily in folk. I loved folk clubs when they had mostly tradtional material, enlivened by new songs, flamenco guitairst, ragtime pianists and fiddlers who could play "The Flight of the Bumble-bee" amazingly fast. A Pigeon Fnciers Club can easily and enjoyably accommodate a vistor who brings a budgerigar...but when you get to 70% budgerigars the original Pigeon Fanciers will start to fold their tents and slip away.