The Shiites can remember, among other things, that last time the Americans told them to rise up against Sadaam, and then left them to his tender mercies. And that we used to support Sadaam. When he was using all that poison gas. Those guys have long memories for what affects them. Now our only friends in the area are the Kurds. Who have no friends, and have been left in the lurch so many times they are desparate. I will bet you this, Teribus. I will bet you, that when Bush sees what the alternatives are, like making enemies of the Turks, he leaves them in the lurch as well.

Troll, what are you trying to say? Are you trying to say we should go overthrow all the bad tyrants in the world? Did you think we were right in throwing out Baby Doc Duvalier (one of the few who were clearly as just as bad as Sadaam)? I bet you just hated that. Are you saying we are in Iraq to save the poor people there from oppression? Seriously?

The problem is this. We are in Iraq because Bush, Rumsfeld & Co. want to control Iraq. Just watch how we take over oil production, which belongs to Russia by treaties enforceable under international law. Just watch how we demand the right to permanent military bases. The Iraqi people know that is why we are there. They do not like the idea. Many of them are fundamentalist Moslems. Fundamentalist Islam is the only alternative to Sadaam. It is the only organization that survived him. Those are very intense people. They know how to make their displeasure felt. Remember Al Quaeda? We are creating more Al Quaedas. If Bush and Rumsfeld hang in, and they will, we are very likely do have an Intifada. Like in Israel. Something like Vietnam in the desert. Like the idea?

Doubtless we will hear a lot about how ungrateful those benighted A-rabs are. Phooey! They know what is happening.