Larry, I was surprised and delighted to find you had chosen a separate thread to answer rather than bury this in thread drift.
I may be a bit dense (Dense? Yes, I'd love to, Fox Trot or Tango?) but I still need a bit more depth or perhaps just clarity. Am I right in saying that seeing God in each of us is the basis for non-violence against other human beings? Or did I misunderstand?
I think I can see the differences between the sects although your own is still a bit muddled....probably because it covers a seemingly broad cross-section. Would that be the case for it seeming a bit unclear? I can see your mention of "sub groups" being applicable in your sect probably moreso than the two others.
Does saying "peace through peaceful means" approximate the idea here or not? It would seem from what you have said and what I knew from before that it's the general idea although, as you mention, Richard Nixon was a Quaker, something always hard for me to comprehend. (BTW, because of the high population of Quakers that originally settled the area where I grew up, one of the local high schools are called the New Philadelphia Quakers----Somehow the idea of a football team known as the "Fighting Quakers" seemed completely incongruous, but....like a company called "Amish Techno-Software Development")
I would assume that suicide is looked upon as a no-no in most sects and groups as it perpetuates violence against oneself, also a human being where God is present. Norman Morrison chose as violent a suicide to promote peace as I can imagine. Was this a Benthamesque act or stupid and foolhardy or brave and courageous.......or all of the above? He was as I stated before, widely revered by some while thought a lunatic by others. It wasn't until many years later that we learned it DID have a profound effect on Robert McNamara. What I am asking is, how does it fit in with the beliefs? Or was he, as may be the case, a part of a sect and sub-group who saw things differently? I'd tend not to believe that the case since as I recall, he pretty much had the admiration of all Quakers.
Thanks for your friendship Larry and your time spent in answering the resident buffoon.