When CarolC lies by ommiting this information, she becomes nothing but an appologist for terrorist murderers.

This is bullshit.

What she fails to tell us is that to Hamas, the "occupation" extends to every inch of historical Palestine, that is to say, all of Israel proper within the pre-1967 borders.

I have not seen or heard any quotes from Hammas that support what you are saying. If you can show me some from credible sources, I'll be happy to stand corrected.

I'm ashamed that I once actually kissed her as a friend. Never again.

You're quite the drama queen. You have a very deep need to see the worst in people, don't you? If I knew who you are, I might be able to respond appropriately, but since I don't, there is no way to even know if you're telling the truth, or just yanking my chain.

The Hamas leaders have made this clear time and time again. They have told Arafat that should he make peace with Israel, he will be executed.

Again, if you show me some actual quotes, I'll be happy to stand corrected.

And that, CarolC, is probably why Arafat has never missed an opportunity to sabotage the peace process.

It wasn't Arafat who sabotaged Oslo. That was Netanyahu, and the Jewish extremist who killed Rabin. And as we have seen, there were no Israeli deaths from PLO terrorism for at least two years while the Palestinians still had hope that Israel would honor it's agreements. You can't blame the failure of Oslo on Arafat, or the Palestinians, or on me, no matter how much your need to hate all of us makes you want to do it.

You can try to hold me responsible for all of the evils of the world if you want. But that's not going to change a thing. Even if I never type or speak another word on the subject, the number of innocents, both Palestinian and Jew, will continue to increase until Israel ends the occupation, or until all Palestinians are gone from Israel and the occupied territories. And if the latter happens, expect a lot of innocent Jews all over the world to be targeted with terrorist attacks, along with a lot of innocent Americans.

This has nothing to do with me or anything I might or might not want. It's just the reality that you and everyone else who cares about Israel has to deal with. As I said before, the numbers back me up on this.