As I have said before I think we should concentrate on the songs and the musics and leave the politics out of mudcat. I will answer requests for any song if I have any information or fill in the blanks as I have done here.

What I will not do is apologise for taking offence at songs which are glorifying the troubles, which is what happened here. It is not funny that people I lived amongst got shot at, blown up, kidnapped, tortured etc. (and I am talking both sides of the community.).. it could just as easily have been me as any of the other countless innocents.....

the orange songs can be equally bad, some of them make me sick to my stomach, but if someone asks I will point them to an appropriate site or the lyrics. But if they say that it is a"funny" song or 'just a bit of a laugh".... they will get the same sort of response as I gave here.

I don't see the point in discussions of "The IRA did this", or "The loyalists did that". The majority of people in Ireland (North and South)want peace, and God knows they deserve it!! we have to get over the past (and yes it's difficult) and get on with the future.

For some reason the threads about Orange songs stay reasonably civilised.. get the answer they want and disappear off the list. The Republican threads tend to stay around and get into this sort of argument, which will never get resolved, because we have such varying backgrounds, and beliefs.

Mick, in the Orange thread you pointed out.... nowhere did anyone try to put forward their beliefs, therefore no one else did either in the replies. All questions were answered, and the person concerned hopefully found what they were looking for. Isn't that what is supposed to happen?

Let's get back to the music

Slainte

alison