I don't know if I find my self agreeing here with Mr. Shambles, or not. I think that we all express ourselves well on many subjects and because of our very varied backgrounds dissention falls in some of the strangest places. I suppose if there are those that would limit a thread then they should have that right, but do not look for me to post on it if my right to express myself to the fullest (within socially accpetable parameters) is limited. This is after all a FORUM, a place of open discussion, is it not?