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Thread #58910   Message #968317
Posted By: GUEST
18-Jun-03 - 08:45 AM
Thread Name: BS: Is Kim Howells an arsehole?
Subject: RE: BS: Is Kim Howells an arsehole?
More sweeping generalisations about N Wales, Gareth? I'm dissapointed in you.

If you were to work your way along the pubs on the coast from say Conwy to Prestatyn, you would find a distinct lack of Welsh speakers. You would be more likely to encounter Scouse and Manchester accents in some pubs than hear the Welsh language spoken. Other parts may be different.

The only time I was really worried was the first time I went looking for a music pub in Bangor. I heard that the music was in the "Vaults" and went to the "Menai Vaults" in upper Bangor which, as I found out, at the time was very much a Welsh language pub. The pub went silent when I asked in English where the music was. There was no hassle though, the landlord answered me in English and told me how to get to the pub I was looking for, the "Old Vaults" on the High Street.

I had one other "Welsh incident" in Bangor when I went down with a friend one afternoon to play some music for a bit of fun (just sort of busking in the pub) in the fairly newly opened "O'Seas". A gang of women came in protesting about an Irish bar and Irish music when there was no Welsh music on the High Street. I just struck up a Welsh tune on the banjo and within seconds, they were singing! It seemed like their only real concern was Welsh culture getting ignored/forgotten and they were quite delighted to learn that even "Saes bastards" like myself did enjoy and learn some Welsh music.