Just to be clear John Hardly - I have not accused you of being, nor assumed that you are, racist.
Oh, I never took it that way -- I thought we were having an interesting discussion. I think my point is that, though it is easy to see the overt racism of one side of the debate -- the racism implied in the assumption that there is race that needs more help than other races is, well, racist (but never percieved that way because, well, their intentions are good).

Actually, they were seeking to offset the effects of tacit racism, John.

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yup. And I'm questioning whether they are making the problem worse in the way they are going about it.