I decided to buy a second twelve string (I had sold my first years ago) when I fell in love with a Seagull in a local store. I brought my three year old Epiphone six string in as a trade, and because I had bought it there I thought they'd give me a fair price. When they offered me only 25% of what I had paid I got pissed off an went down the street to Guitar Center where I bought a used Celebrity (Ovation)--I never play it, partly because I love my Wildwood banjo so much, partly because that slick round back feels so weird, and partly because I am never satisfied with the way it tunes. I wish I had paid twice as much for the Seagull. --seed