I reckon, tunesmith, it must have bin the early seventies. I've just dug out me Fotheringay LP which was issued in 1970 on the Island label. What a great in-side cover photo of the band on stage that is with Sandy playing a huge 6 string guitar & Gerry Conway on drums (with jet-black hair!) - happy days. Getting back to Vin Garbutt, i recently saw him at the Pacific Road gig in Rirkenhead with Bob Fox and he was 'bloody graaate - cheers all the very best'