The state of political graft and corruption is equal opportunity. No party has a lock on it. The polarization in this country is not Dem vs Rep or even liberal vs conservative. It has to with corrupt vs. not corrupt.

I believe the latest guest, who's politics I disagree with, is right about one thing. The conservative elements of this society (whom are also quite splintered, but can agree to vote as a bloc) have displaced the liberal elements of this society in politics and business. The liberals have been effectively marginalized and are very much dead in the water. They don't have a prayer for beating Bush in 2004.

The true polarization in this society is between forward looking progressives, and backward looking conservatives. Liberals are irrelevant, and they are represented politically by the Democrats, despite the occassional conservatives (like that young, black House member from Tennessee the right wing of the Dem party is grooming for greatness, whose name escapes me right now) here and there.

The progressives in this party will eventually do battle directly with the conservatives, and they will win. That is the nature of human progress. Conservatives can't hold us back forever, only for a short time in the big scheme of things. I do take that sort of long view. The current turn to the right is millenial inspired fear mongering by people terrified of what the world will look like when it is ruled by more enlightened egalitarians from all over the globe, and when this nasty capitalist virus runs it's course, and we have a whole new economic model.