As the conservative guest, may I point out, Forum Lurker, that your definition has nothing to do with the real world. It is a bunch of vague generalities and assumptions based in the past. The top money horders are people like Michael Eisner, Ted Turner and David Geffen, who have clean fingernails. I respect the old school industrialists who built the country. I have many friends who live in "manufactured housing" and they all vote for Republicans. If you talk issues, we can actually get somewhere.