Whatever, DG. But I would like to clarify one thing. It seems to me that most of the progressives here aren't in denial at all, and know that while there aren't any substantive differences in the ways the Democrats and Republicans/conservative and liberal politicians do the business to the nation, there are some very substantial differences between pre and post 9/11, which has resulted in some significant differences between Bush and Clinton in some things, but in other things, not.

In other words, progressives here can and do make these distinctions without going round the bend everytime they post.