I don't really want to get into the definition of "liberal" vs. "conservative" ( or "Liberal" vs. "Conservative") pissing match but would observe that the gross ignorance of history (or the wilful disregard of fact and subsequent "terminological inexactitude") displayed by Powell in the statement quoted and tyhe agreement with and support of such an idiotic statement by "conservatives" is one thing that tends to get up the noses of 'liberals'.