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Lyr Req: The Old Man (Coulter)

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THE BALLAD OF RONNIE'S MARE
THE TOWN I LOVED SO WELL


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Rob Kelly 25 Jun 99 - 12:31 PM
Barbara 25 Jun 99 - 02:31 PM
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Subject: The Old Man
From: Rob Kelly
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 12:31 PM

Looking for the lyrics to a song called 'the(or my)old man' done by the Irish Tenors for sure,as I heard it,but can find NO reference to it on any other Lyric/tune site.


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Barbara
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 02:31 PM

Hi Rob, welcome to Mudcat, home of the Digital Tradition database. See that box in the upper right corner? If you put [My Old Man] in there, like that, in brackets, you'll pull up a list of the songs with that phrase in it.
I'm going to guess that the one you want is by Ewan MacColl and is here.
If that isn't it, use the brackets and search. There's a good chance it's here.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 02:47 PM

A Forum Search turns up several threads when you look for old man. I'll betcha it's

this one (click)

that you're seeking.
Otherwise, try here.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: SingsIrish Songs
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 02:56 PM

The song is The Old Man by Phil Coulter (The tears have all been shed now We've said our last goodbyes. Etc.)

To save you time, the words are at Joe Offer's blue link that says "this one (click)"

Anyone have the chords to this?

Mary


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 03:20 PM

Yeah, the song is indeed by Phil Coulter. He wrote for the Furey Brothers in memory of their Da, Ted Furey.

Funny how this goes. Tomorrow night in the wee Village of Parnell, my band is performing for the Parish Festival at St. Patricks. This village is named for Charles Stuart Parnell and holds an important place in the hearts of the children of Ireland in Michigan. Three of my band members are descended from the original Plat holders for the area. They have many ancestors buried in the cemetary, including two of the fathers of my band members. The third father is buried not far away in another cemetary. Tomorrow night, after we sing The Parting Glass to close our performance, I am going to send the band members off stage to be with their spouses, and sing this very touching song for them. I will sing it within earshot of and in memory of the men who gave them the gift of music, from which I benefit so very much. It is a surprise, so don't tell, OK? **grin** I hope I can sing it without too many tears.

So to Gerry Scott, Frank Goldsmith and Clare Verlin,.......this one is for you, and your boys, Mike, Jim and Tom.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 03:24 PM

It's on Phil Coulter's Live Experience (click to hear) album. Is it also on a Three Tenors album?
Wish I could hear you sing it, Mick.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 03:53 PM

I have put the chords into the original thread which you can access by pushing Joe's first blue clicky thing above. I did it in G. If you would like, you can purchase The Furey's and Davey Arthur Songbook. I know that it can be purchased at Elderly instruments. CLICK HERE to go to their catalogue on the listing for the book.

Mick


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: SingsIrish Songs
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 04:10 PM

I must have missed one of those links...or am blind and didn't see the chords.

Thanks Big Mick!


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 04:19 PM

SingsIrishSongs,

TRY HERE

Mick


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 04:21 PM

Oops. I made a boo boo. Try HERE instead.

Mick
Keep the $%^&*#@ quote marks outa yer links, Mick!
-You Know Who-


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: SingsIrish Songs
Date: 25 Jun 99 - 09:18 PM

I found them. Thanks Big Mick!

Mary


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Big Mick
Date: 26 Jun 99 - 12:29 AM

Thanks for the "%$£^&*$% fix, Joe. Sorry about that.

Mick


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Alice
Date: 26 Jun 99 - 01:46 AM

Joe, PBS tv recently had a concert of the three IRISH tenors, (not the 3 Italian tenors that are so famous). It was a great performance to hear, and must have been a hit, because our local station ran it again for fundraising in June. The singers were John McDermott, Ronan Tynan, and Anthony Kearns. I especially liked Tynan performing the Town I Loved So Well, and Kearns singing Boulavogue. Ronan Tynan and Anthony Kearns both have wonderfully trained classical voices.


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Jun 99 - 04:23 AM

Oh, duh. I shoulda known that. I saw the special. The woman hosting the pledge drive in DC was so gushy I turned the volume off and typed reports, and missed a good bit of it when the tenors came back on. Good show, wasn't it?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Rob Kelly
Date: 28 Jun 99 - 09:44 AM

Thanks,everyone. Found it,lyrics,chords & all.-Now I'm depressed again,but in a GOOD way,y'know? Robert P.S Barbara,it WASN't the Ewan McColl song,but it's kinda nice,too.


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Martin _Ryan
Date: 28 Jun 99 - 10:12 AM

Mick

What does "Plat holders" mean, please - assuming its not a typo? Thanks

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Big Mick
Date: 28 Jun 99 - 08:20 PM

Hello Martin. It is not a typo, and I am not sure if I used it properly, but I believe I did. During the days that the land in the State/Territory was originally divided up for sale/grant, it was divided into plats. It was simply a section of land. Then each plat was sold, auctioned, granted, etc. to individuals. In this area of Michigan, the original settlers, or platholders, and their descendants became known as Parnell Irish. To this day the descendants take great pride in being called by this name. Some of the people who came to Parnell stayed and many more came here and then were passed on to jobs working on building the railroad, lumbering in the North, and so on. Michigan has very strong ties to her Irish children. One has but to look at the county and city names to understand this. Among Michigan's counties are Wexford, Roscommon, Clare and Antrim. Cities and villages include Parnell, Grattan, Corktown ( the oldest settlement in Detroit)Clare and many others. The oldest tavern in the State of Michigan is an Irish joint in Hubbardston.

The Book of Kells has only been copied once in the time it has been at Trinity College. My understanding is that Trinity allowed it to be taken for the purpose of creating a very small number (I believe it was 100) of perfect museum quality replica's. These ended up in places like New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art, as well as the other great museum's of the world. They were exact replica's down to the imperfections in the vellum and the irregular size of the pages. The Irish in Muskegon, Michigan raised the funds and purchased one of these. Quite a feat for a small city in Michigan given the competition that existed for these copies.

And finally, there is Beaver Island. Located in the northern part of Lake Michigan, is a beautiful island with a lovely deep water port. It was originally settled by emmigrant fishermen from the Arran Islands. It has a colorful history, including a time when a Mormon minister came and started a settlement, eventually declared himself King, was killed by his followers, and the lads took the Island back. That is an extremely abridged version of the story which is a great read. For a trip through the Island and its history CLICK HERE. The Island is known as "America's Emerald Isle". The last Ambassador to the U.S. from Ireland (Dermott Gallagher??), just before he left to return home, brought his family here for a 2 week visit. The music of the Island has its own sound, but is clearly evolved from its Arran Irish roots. There is a recording available someplace called Beaver Island House Party. It is a mixture of very old recordings and current. It is an amazing tape. One of the highlights in the history of our band is when we went their and performed.

See what happens when you ask a Mick a simple question? Hhahahahahahahahaha..........LOL

All the best,

Big Mick


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Subject: RE: The Old Man
From: Martin _Ryan
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 05:40 PM

Thanks, Mick! So, basically, "Plat" = "plot"?

Regards


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