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Lyr Req: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?

Mike Ryan 10 Oct 99 - 01:08 PM
Jon Freeman 10 Oct 99 - 01:41 PM
Allan S 10 Oct 99 - 01:47 PM
poet 10 Oct 99 - 06:09 PM
John Hindsill 10 Oct 99 - 06:19 PM
John Wood 10 Oct 99 - 06:28 PM
paddymac 10 Oct 99 - 10:22 PM
SeanM 10 Oct 99 - 10:44 PM
Jon Freeman 10 Oct 99 - 10:50 PM
SeanM 10 Oct 99 - 11:05 PM
bill\sables 11 Oct 99 - 07:27 AM
GeorgeH 11 Oct 99 - 07:49 AM
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Subject: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: Mike Ryan
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 01:08 PM

I have run into a few problems trying to find a recorded version of the song "Seven Drunken Nights". I purchased a CD (Dubliners maybe) that listed the song but in fact included only the first five nights. Recently, a friend of mine who was aware of the situation bought me another CD with "Seven..." on it but as it turns out this only includes five nights as well. If you know of a recording of this song that features all the nights, please pass such information on by posting here or e-mail me at mryan@hermes.gc.peachnet.edu.

Thank you.


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 01:41 PM

I have not come across a recording of the 7 as the last 2 verses tend to be a bit rude. If you want some lyrics, seven_drunken_nights will offer you some. The version I sing is a bit different but runs along the same lines as this (using the second alternative verse for the last night).

Jon


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: Allan S
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 01:47 PM

If I remember it is called 10 Nights drunk


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: poet
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 06:09 PM

When the seven drunken nights were recorded there was no way that Auntie BBC would allow the last too nights to be aired, and in those days the BBC was the deciding Factor. I do a version of what I have been told were those verses. if you want me to post them leave a message.
Graham (Guernsey)


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: John Hindsill
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 06:19 PM

However many nights it is (they are), it is (they are) not enough!!!!


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: John Wood
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 06:28 PM

To quote somebody or other.......
``Once a King,always a King,
but once a Knights enough!!!!
John.


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: paddymac
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 10:22 PM

I have never found a recording of "7" noghts, presumably because, as noted above, the last two can be a bit bold. I have encountered several printed versions in collections from several english-speaking traditions and can attest that the song is wide-spread. The melody most commonly used is that used by the Dubliners, but there are others also. There was a story in an issue of Irish Echo last year ('98) reporting various tidbits from declassified Irish government papers (there is apparently a 25-yr suppression option) which claimed that the Irish government banned the song from air-play in Ireland at the strong urging of church authorities on the grounds that it "encouraged drunkeness and promiscuity". Most versions have the 6th night featuring variations on a visitor in the lady's bed, and the 7th night featuring a fellow caught sneaking out the door after three am. He commonly turns out to be a crown functionary of some sort. I'll be happy to send you verses I have, but I think you can pretty much let your imagination and creativity have free reign.


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: SeanM
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 10:44 PM

On the versions I've heard sung that include nights 6 and 7, they usually tend to involve rather graphic descriptions of what's going on within the bed...

Warning: They are a bit bawdy...

"When I came home on Saturday night...
As drunk as drunk can be
I saw a pair of mitts on my wife's tits
Where my own mitts should be

I called me wife, and said to her
Would you kindly explain to me
Who owns these mitts upon your tits
Where my own mitts should be?

Oh, you're drunk, you're drunk you silly old fool
Until you cannot see
That's a loverly brassiere that me mother sent to me
Oh, many's the day I've traveled
A hundred miles or more
But a brassiers with the fingernails on,
I've never seen before

Night seven is the same plan, but involves "Who owns the cock that's picking your own lock?", with the wife responding it's a broomstick.

The last verse was sung

"But a broomstick with the testicles on,
sure I've never seen before"

Warned you that it got bawdy...[

M


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 10:50 PM

I was too polite to offer a version here but seeing as the tone has now been set, my last verse has a "thing between her legs"... and it was a carrot (presuamably genetically modified as it has the same features as the broomstick in your version).

Jon


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: SeanM
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 11:05 PM

Sorry Jon... this is just one of those songs that it's really hard to dance around the lyrics... kinda like "Eskimo Nell"...

But I've also heard the carrot... Depending on who's singing it, how drunk the crowd is, and how drunk the singer is, I've heard everything from very polite metaphor to terminology that I've had to look up later...

One of my favorite pub versions is done as a drinking song, where the band one by one grabs a pint and guzzles it while the band holds the note on "as drunk as drunk can be____________". A few hardy souls in the crowd usually try to match the band drink for drink... with the usual humouros results (Ever seen someone try and order a beer after downing 5-7 pints in under 5 minutes? It's amusing)

M


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: bill\sables
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 07:27 AM

Before the Dubliners recorded the popular version of the song, I think it was sometime in the late fifties or early sixties, I used to sing a version using all seven or eight nights which I think came from somewhere like the West country according to the accent.

As I come home on a Monday a little afore my time,
There in the stable were an 'orse that weren't mine.
"Whose 'orse be that? Whose 'orse be that? Whose ever bandon be?"
"That only be a milking cow my mother sent to me."
Well it's many the miles I've travelled, a hundred miles or more,
But a saddle on a milking cow I never did see before.

This song after finding various clues in the bedroom ended with the lover being chased off with a shotgun.

There was also a Geordie version with the chorus words of "Oh you're drunk ye bugger, ye bugger you're drunk You're drunk as you can be." Etc.

Cheers Bill

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 9-Aug-02.


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Subject: Lyr Add: TH'OWD CHAP (from Ewan MacColl)
From: GeorgeH
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 07:49 AM

Second attempt; my confuser blew up on me last time round.

It's a mistake to believe there SHOULD necessarily be seven verses; see the note at the end of this version. Which was submitted to DTrad a while back but appears not to have made it into the database:

TH'OWD CHAP
===========

Recorded by Ewan MacColl on 'Saturday Night at the Bull and Mouth'; Blackthorne BR1055 1977

Th'owd chap came ower t'bank, bawling for his tea,
Saw a pair o' mucky clogs where his owd clogs should be,
Come here, wife, come here wife, what's this here I see?
How come this mucky pair o' clogs where my owd clogs should be?
Y'owd bugger, ye daft bugger, can't you plainly see?
That's just a couple of pickle jars me owd mam sent to me.
I've been ower hills and dales, me lass, and many a grassy moor,
But girt hob-nails on a pickle-jar I've never seen before.

Th'owd chap came ower t'bank, bawling for his tea,
Saw a coat on back o' t'door where his owd coat should be,
Come here, wife, come here wife, what's this here I see?
How come this coat on back o' t'door where my owd coat should be?
Y'owd bugger, ye daft bugger, can't you plainly see?
That's just an owd dish-clout me owd mam sent to me.
I've been ower hills and dales, me lass, and many a grassy moor,
But buttons on a dish clout I've never seen before.

Th'owd chap came ower t'bank, bawling for his tea
Saw a head on t'pillow where his owd head should be
Come here, wife, come here wife, what's this here I see?
How come this head on t'pillow where my owd head should be?
Y'owd bugger, ye daft bugger, can't you plainly see?
That's just a home-grown turnip me owd mam sent to me.
I've been ower hills and dales, me lass, and many a grassy moor,
But girt big teeth in a turnip I've never seen before.

Th'owd chap came ower t'bank, bawling for his tea
Saw a pair o' hairy cods where his own cods should be
Come here, wife, come here wife, what's this here I see?
How come this pair of hairy clods where my own cods should be?
Y'owd bugger, ye daft bugger, can't you plainly see?
That's just a couple of home-grown spuds me owd mam sent to me.
I've been ower hills and dales, me lass, and many a grassy moor,
But home-grown spuds with hairs on I've never seen before.

Th'owd chap came ower t'bank, bawling for his tea
Saw a girt big standing prick where his owd prick should be
Come here, wife, come here wife, what's this here I see?
How come this girt big standing prick where my owd prick should be?
Y'owd bugger, ye daft bugger, can't you plainly see?
That's just a home-grown carrot me owd mam sent to me.
I've been ower hills and dales, me lass, and many a grassy moor,
But a carrot diggin' a great big hole I've never seen before.

[Anyone who considers that it's a verse or two short might like to note that the two principal versions of 'Our Gudeman' in Child (no. 274) end with a broadly similar verse - with the wife in bed with one (or three) 'wrong' men; one version is six verses long, the other seven.]

G.


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: poet
Date: 13 Oct 99 - 05:11 PM

In our version for Carrot read rolling Pin(We Brag/lie a lot on stage)


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 13 Oct 99 - 05:45 PM

A Vermont version I collected in 1966 ended up with "saw a pole in the hole where my pole ought to be." The good wife says it's "nothing but a rolling pin, etc." "A rolling pin with ballocks on, I never saw before," cries the cuckold.

My favorite version was created by Lorre Wyatt some thirty years ago. Unfortunately, it can only be sung for a group sophisticated enough to know the ballad. It goes (and this is the COMPLETE song):

As I came home with a fifth last night, drunk as I could be,
Saw a head on the pillow where my horse ought to be.
I said to my wife, "My pretty little wife, explain this thing to me,
What's a mush-melon doing on a hat-rack where my milk cow ought to be?"
"You old fool, you blind fool, can't you plainly see?
It's nothing but a dishcloth my granny sent to me."
"Well, I've travelled this wide world over, ten-thousand miles or more,
But a saddle and a zipper on a butter-dish I've never seen before!"

Sing this to the tune of any of your favorite American versions of "Our Goodman."

Sandy


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 13 Oct 99 - 05:48 PM

Please omit the extra spaces in the final quatrain, and change the last line to read "I never did see before."

Sandy (proof-reader extraordinaire)


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Subject: RE: 5 Drunken Nights ?!?
From: KathWestra
Date: 14 Oct 99 - 02:12 PM

Joe Hickerson, formerly head of the ARchive of Folk Culture at the Library of Congress, once was going to do a doctoral thesis on "Our Goodman" (a.k.a. 5, 7, or 10 Nights Drunk). He has a file drawer filled with several HUNDRED different versions of the song. Joe is retired now and divides his time between Washington, DC, and Chicago. You might want to give him a call if you're ever in the area. He loves that song (and has a steel-trap memory for the different versions he's assembled).
Kath (who knows about the file drawer because we were married for a long while!)


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