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Peter Timmerman 01 Jun 97 - 04:02 PM
RS 01 Jun 97 - 06:23 PM
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Subject: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other Wacky Brown
From: Peter Timmerman
Date: 01 Jun 97 - 04:02 PM

While rambling through memory land with "Greasy Grimy Gobs" etc., I was reminded of a camp song about Eddie Something or Other who fell into a well, and whose name was so long that by the time rescue came he had drowned. It was something like "Eddie TusacatakamadosaeradosanokaSamacama Wacky Brown, fell into the well, fell into the well, fell into the deep dark well. someone sees him, runs to tell someone else, and so on. Does anyone have the full lyrics? yours, Peter

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Subject: Lyr Add: EDDY KOOTCHIE KATCHIE KANA
From: RS
Date: 01 Jun 97 - 06:23 PM

This is from the three-binder song book I typed for myself more than twenty years ago ... if only there had been word processors then! I still marvel at the Internet, where somebody from who-knows-where can benefit from my personal bookshelf.

Learned this at camp, no idea of the original sources.

CHORUS:
Eddy Kootchie katchie kana
Tosa nary tosa noka
Sama kama waky Brown
Fell into the well, fell into the well,
fell into the deep dark well.

Suzy Jones was milking in the barn
Saw him fall and ran inside to tell her ma that...

Suzy's ma was baking crackling bread
Ran outside to tell old Joe that Suzy said that...

Well, old Joe, he put his plow aside
Grabbed his cane and hobbled into town and cried that...

To the well, everybody came,
What a shame, it took so long to say his name that ...

Eddy Kootchie katchie kana
Tosa nary tosa noka
Sama kama waky Brown
WHO?
Eddy Kootchie katchie kana
Tosa nary tosa noka
Sama kama waky Brown
DROWNED!


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Peter Timmerman
Date: 02 Jun 97 - 09:56 AM

Thank you RS (an abbreviated long name?) you have made my day. Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: sophia1
Date: 24 Sep 97 - 12:39 AM

Now that I have the lyrics, which I have been looking for, for 3 years, would anyone know what 60's group it was who sang it. I would be forever gratful.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Shula
Date: 24 Sep 97 - 01:00 AM

Sorry, Sophial, don't know the group, just want to ask if this song owes anything to the childrens' story, Rikki-Tikki-Tembo-(no-sa-rembo-chari-bari-ruchi-pip-peri-pembo)? Or, perhaps, is it the other way round?

In this version, the boy with the long name falls down a well and his rescue is complicated by the difficulty of relaying his predicament using the entire name. When his much-less-valued, and hence, short-named, younger brother falls in the same well, he is quickly saved, leaving the family, and, by extension, all of China (!) to elect conveniently short names ever after. Anybody else see the similarity?

Shula


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Sep 97 - 01:24 AM

Well, yes, Sophia, I remember very well what 60's group sang it. It was the staff of Camp Singing Hills, a Girl Scout camp in southeastern Wisconsin. I know that for a fact, because my sister was a member of that camp staff and well-nigh drove me crazy, singing that song over and over again.
Are you implying that somebody actually RECORDED the song? Oh, woe is me!
-Joe Offer-

...I also have almost the same lyrics in a songbook from Many Points Scout Reservation, B.S.A.; but no Boy Scout unit I've been associated with would stoop to singing such a song.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Sheye
Date: 24 Sep 97 - 10:28 AM

Now that we've put this song back in your head to be heard over and over and over... (you're welcome.)


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 Sep 97 - 01:32 PM

I've been away (as has this thread) but glad to see it still alive. What are the lyrics to Rikki-Tikki-Tembo (anything like Kipling?). They certainly sound like scions of the same ur-tree. Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: sophia1
Date: 24 Sep 97 - 07:16 PM

Well, Joe, as sad as it appears, some group really did record this tune. The group, I believe was some one like "The Brothers Four," or "Kingston Trio" or something like that, if anyone knows who the group might have been I'd sure like to know, aside from that I can't thank enough, all of you who posted lyrics, have my battle has been won.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Allan Samuels
Date: 29 Sep 97 - 11:07 PM

Sophia, It WAS indeed the Brother's Four. The album was "The Brothers Four" on Columbia. It features their hit "Greenfields". The Number was CS 8197. They were one of my favorite groups.

Allan


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Shula
Date: 30 Sep 97 - 07:14 AM

Dear Peter T.,

Fear ye're in f'r 'nother query hangover, Rabbit. Rikki-Tikki-Tembo is a children' story as indicated, not a song.

S'far'z Ah know, t'ain't bin set t' music yit, tho' it do hev a quat nahss rythm to't. Don't hev nuthin' t' do wi' thet fine ol' fleet-foot mongoose, Riki-Tiki-Tavi, less'n t' lady wat rote it dun heer'd thet tale as a chile 'n' plum f'got

Now look't y've a'gone 'n' done! Y've got me wonderin' if Kiplin's plucky little feller'z ever been properly celee-bra-ded in song, er if'n Ah could make a song 'bout him er mebbe 'bout them two Chinee boyz down thet thar well. Hmmm... Y'd a thunk they Mammy'd be a'watchin' a mite closer efter she done near los' one, w'untcha?

Sorry Ah cain't be more hep to ya, son.

Ree-gawrds,

Shula


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Ralph Butts
Date: 30 Sep 97 - 07:57 AM

Allan....That Brothers Four album has a number of songs recently discussed here, most recently "Zulu Warrior". The whole list:

The Zulu Warrior
Sama Kama Wacky Brown
The Damsel's Lament (I Never Will Marry)
Yellow Bird
Angelique-O
Superman
East Virginia
Greenfields
Darlin' Won't You Wait
Eddystone Light
Banua
Hard Travelin'

They were part of the folk revival and seemed to cover the waterfront with this one....Tiger


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Subject: ADD: Tikki Tikki Tembo (story)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 04:43 AM

Hey, thanks to Google, I found the story that Shula talked about. I wonder how she's doing - haven't heard from her since March, 1999.
The story, with illustrations, is here (click).
-Joe Offer-
Once upon a time, a long, long time ago, it was the custom of all fathers and mothers in China to give their first and honored sons great long names. But second sons were given hardly any name at all.

In a small mountain village there lived a mother who had two little sons. Her second son she called Chang, which meant "little or nothing." But her first and honored son, she called Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari bari ruchi-pip peri pembo, which meant "the most wonderful thing in the whole wide world!"

Every morning the mother went to wash in a little stream near her home. The two boys always went chattering along with her. On the bank was an old well.

"Don't go near the well," warned the mother, "or you will surely fall in."

The boys did not always mind their mother and one day they were playing beside the well, and on the well when Chang fell in!
Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari bari ruchi-pip peri pembo ran as fast as his little legs could carry him to his mother and said,

"Most Honorable Mother, Chang has fallen into the well!"

"The water roars, 'Little Blossom,' I can not hear you," said the mother.

Then Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-cheri bari ruchi-pip peri pembo raised his voice and cried,

"Oh, Most Honorable One, Chang has fallen into the well!"

"That troublesome boy," answered the mother. "Run and get the Old Man With The Ladder to fish him out."

Then Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari beri ruchi-pip peri pembo ran as fast as his little legs could carry him to the Old Man With The Ladder and said,

"Old Man With The Ladder, Chang has fallen into the well. Will you come and fish him out?"

"So," said the Old Man With The Ladder, "Chang has fallen into the well."

And he ran as fast as his old legs could carry him. Step over step, step over step he went into the well, picked up little Chang, and step over step, step over step brought him out of the well.

He pumped the water out of him and pushed the air into him, and pumped the water out of him and pushed the air into him, and soon Chang was just as good as ever!

Now for several months the boys did not go near the well. But after the Festival of the Eighth Moon they ran to the well to eat their rice cakes.

They ate near the well, they played around the well, they walked on the well and Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari beri ruchi-pip peri pembo fell into the well!

Chang ran as fast as his little legs could carry him to his mother and said,

"Oh, Most Honorable Mother, Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari beri ruchi-pip peri pembo has fallen into the well!"

"The water roars, 'Little one,' I cannot hear you."

So Chang took a deep breath.

"Oh, Mother, Most Honorable," he panted, "Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari beri ruchi-pip peri pembo has fallen into the well!"

"Tiresome Child, what are you trying to say?" sadi his mother.

"Honorable Mother!

Chari bari

rembo

tikki tikki,"

he gasped,

"pip pip

has fallen into the well!"

"Unfortunate Son, surely the evil spirits have bewitched your tongue. Speak your brother's name with reverence."

Poor little Chang was all out of breath from saying that geat long name, and he didn't think he could say it one more time. But then he thought of his brother in the old well.

Chang bowed his little head clear to the sand, took a deep breath and slowly, very slowly said,

"Most Honorable Mother, Tikki tikki-tembo-no-sarembo-chari beri-ruchi-pip-peri pembo is at the bottom of the well."

"Oh, not my first and honored son, heir of all I possess! Run quickly and tell the Old Man With The Ladder that your brother has fallen into the well."

So Chang ran as fast as his little legs would carry him to the Old Man With The Ladder. Under a tree the Old Man With The Ladder sat bowed and silent.

"Old Man, Old Man," shouted Chang. "Come right away! Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari beri ruchi-pip peri pembo has fallen into the stone well!"

But there was no answer. Puzzled he waited. The with his very last bit of breath he shouted,

"Old Man With The Ladder, Tikki tikki tembo-nop sa rembo-chari beri ruchi-pip peri pembo is at the bottom of the well."

"Miserable child, you disturb my dream. I had floated into a purple mist and found my youth again. There were glittering gateways and jeweled blossoms. If I close my eyes perhaps I will again return."

Poor little Chang was frightened. How could he say that great long name again?

"Please, Old Man With The Ladder, please help my brother out of the cold well."

"So," said the Old Man With The Ladder, "your mother's 'Precious Pearl' has fallen into the well!"

The Old Man With The Ladder hurried as fast as his old legs could carry him. Step over step, step over step he went into the well, and step over step, step over step out of the well with the little boy in his arms. Then he pumped the water out of him and pushed the air into him.

But little Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari bari ruchi-pip peri pembo had been in the water so long, all because of his great long name, that the moon rose many times before he was quite the same again.

And from that day to this the Chinese have always thought it wise to give all their children little, short names instead of great long names.

Click here for another version of the story. Click here for a discussion of whether the story is correct or appropriate.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: LR Mole
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 09:34 AM

Donovan did a "Rikki-Tikki-Tavi", on "Barabajagal" I think, which (RTT) he unaccountably pronounced "Rikkitikkitivvi". Seemed to have some political overtones I couldn't understand.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Peter T.
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 10:05 AM

A blast from the past. I too wonder what became of Shula, who graced us with her anarchic ways. She was quite unwell for long periods -- I hope she is o.k. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: MMario
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 10:24 AM

Actually I remember Rikki-tikki-tembo being sung when I was young. Probably late 50's early 60's


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Eddie Something or Other
From: Trapper
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 10:26 AM

Joe-

First of all, I resemble that remark about no Boy Scout unit ever singing Eddie...Brown! As a proud former staffer of Many Point Scout Camp, I sang and knew this song well!

Secondly - here is yet another version of the "long name" story....

Niki Niki Amo Mucho Amo Niki Niki Amo Para Para Fu and Ting-A-Ling

Later!

- Al

PS - The entire Many Point Scout Camp Sing-Along Songbook is online here, with a great debt of gratitude to Mudcat!


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