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Tune Add: The Wee Weaver

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Wee Weaver (transcribed from Steeleye Span)
Wee Weaver Paddy Tunney's tune (transcribed from his book, "The Stone Fiddle")


Malcolm Douglas 15 Mar 00 - 07:55 PM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 15 Mar 00 - 08:08 PM
Malcolm Douglas 15 Mar 00 - 08:56 PM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 16 Mar 00 - 03:36 AM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 16 Mar 00 - 04:07 AM
Malcolm Douglas 16 Mar 00 - 07:27 AM
Crowhugger 16 Mar 00 - 07:37 AM
Malcolm Douglas 16 Mar 00 - 07:56 AM
Alan of Australia 16 Mar 00 - 02:36 PM
Crowhugger 16 Mar 00 - 03:11 PM
Malcolm Douglas 16 Mar 00 - 11:02 PM
GUEST,nicoara_bogdan@yahoo.com 19 Sep 05 - 02:12 AM
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Subject: The Wee Weaver
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 07:55 PM

While wandering through the DT recently, I came across Wee Weaver (filename WEEWEAVE)  here.  It was transcribed from Steeleye Span's recording; so far as I know, their version comes originally from Brigid Tunney.  No tune is given, so I thought I'd send a midi to the Mudcat Midi Site.  In fact, it turns out to be two: the one given by Paddy Tunney -Brigid's son, of course- in his book, The Stone Fiddle (Gilbert Dalton Ltd., 1979), and one made by ear from Maddy Prior's singing, since they are significantly different.  The latter is only approximate, of course, so if anyone can improve on it, please feel free!  The text is quite short, so I'll give it again here, with a few minor corrections (in bold):

THE WEE WEAVER

I am a wee weaver, confined to my loom;
My love she is fair as the red rose in June.
She's loved by all young men and that does grieve me;
My heart's in the bosom of lovely Mary.

As Willie and Mary rode by yon shady bower,
Where Willie and Mary spent many a happy hour,
Where the thrush and the blackbird do constantly call
The praises of Mary round Lough Erne shore.

As Willie and Mary rode by yon river side,
Said Willie to Mary, "Will you be my bride?"
This couple got married and they'll roam no more;
Their pleasures and treasure's round Lough Erne shore.

For line 3, Paddy Tunney gives, "She's loved by all others" , for line 7, "Where the thrush and the linnet do consort in chore" and for line 12, "They'll have pleasures and treasures...".  He also has "roamed" instead of "rode", which is probably a better choice.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 08:08 PM

Is Paddy's version not "consort in chorus"?
One of my all-time favourites - but then I'm biassed (the one I love sings it!).

Regards


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 08:56 PM

"Consort in chore" is what he says in his book; it would be an archaic form of "chorus", though, I should think.  I do agree with you; a fine song.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 03:36 AM

Interesting! The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology gives "chore" as as a variant of "chare" meaning a "turn of work" and related, presumably to char, charlady etc.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 04:07 AM

Ha! Too early in the morning for coherent thought! "chore" with the cha-cha sound is obvioius. It's the guttural we need. Sorry.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 07:27 AM

Hmm...the original posting seems to have disappeared...

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: Crowhugger
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 07:37 AM

Help...I can't find the MIDI. Anyone know where it is?


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 07:56 AM

I only sent them to Alan last night!  They'll appear in due course.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 02:36 PM

G'day,
Thanks to Malcolm the tunes can be found here and here at the Mudcat MIDI site.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: Crowhugger
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 03:11 PM

Oh, that's how it works. Oi lives an' Oi loins. Oops, don't go there...

CH


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 11:02 PM

Part of this thread will be pretty meaningless to anyone reading it now that the original message has disappeared. I don't know what actually happened: it's possible that my original post was deleted because it quoted a set of lyrics already on the DT, though a good many "copy and paste" examples of lyrics that don't attempt to add to the original texts concerned are still kicking around. Alternatively, it may be just one of those mysterious things that happen. In order to make the thread understandable, I think I should briefly re-iterate:

While wandering through the DT recently, I came across WEE WEAVER (filename WEEWEAVE) here. It was transcribed from Steeleye Span's recording; so far as I know, their version comes originally from Brigid Tunney. No tune is given, so I thought I'd send a midi to the Mudcat Midi Site. In fact, it turns out to be two: the one given by Paddy Tunney -Brigid's son, of course- in his book, The Stone Fiddle (Gilbert Dalton Ltd., 1979), and one made by ear from Maddy Prior's singing, since they are significantly different. The latter is only approximate, of course, so if anyone can improve on it, please feel free!

I then quoted the lyrics given in the database, (3 verses) correcting mistakes made in the original transcription. They were:

Verse 1, line 4:
My heart's in the bosom (not purse) of lovely Mary.

Verses 2 & 3, line 4: Lough Erne (not Loch Garrin, which so far as I know does not exist.).

For line 3, Paddy Tunney gives, "She's loved by all others" , for line 7, "Where the thrush and the linnet do consort in chore" and for line 12, "They'll have pleasures and treasures...". He also has "roamed" instead of "rode", which is probably a better choice. This is a bit harder to follow without the text, but there it is. The link is there.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: The Wee Weaver
From: GUEST,nicoara_bogdan@yahoo.com
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 02:12 AM

hello! ...hello! i've heard this song yesterday night and what made me verry intrested is the fact that it is resemblance whith the traditional romanian mourning songs. can please anybody help me? we had in the 8'th century an celtic invasion on this part of the world bu there was no hard fact proofs.


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