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BS: What is the best Search Engine?

Ed Pellow 28 Sep 00 - 07:15 PM
catspaw49 28 Sep 00 - 07:21 PM
Mbo 28 Sep 00 - 07:23 PM
rabbitrunning 28 Sep 00 - 07:25 PM
Ed Pellow 28 Sep 00 - 07:33 PM
Mark Clark 28 Sep 00 - 07:38 PM
Quincy 28 Sep 00 - 07:40 PM
thosp 28 Sep 00 - 07:44 PM
Stewie 28 Sep 00 - 07:48 PM
Jim Dixon 28 Sep 00 - 07:50 PM
catspaw49 28 Sep 00 - 07:53 PM
GUEST, mrs_zezam 28 Sep 00 - 08:01 PM
rabbitrunning 28 Sep 00 - 08:07 PM
Jon Freeman 28 Sep 00 - 08:09 PM
McGrath of Harlow 28 Sep 00 - 08:17 PM
Alice 28 Sep 00 - 08:29 PM
GUEST,mousethief (from the library) 28 Sep 00 - 08:45 PM
GUEST,Mickey191 28 Sep 00 - 09:27 PM
harpgirl 28 Sep 00 - 10:42 PM
jofield 28 Sep 00 - 11:41 PM
Brendy 29 Sep 00 - 03:08 AM
Jon Freeman 29 Sep 00 - 03:21 AM
Amergin 29 Sep 00 - 03:30 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 29 Sep 00 - 08:31 AM
Mark Clark 29 Sep 00 - 11:14 AM
mg 29 Sep 00 - 11:27 AM
GUEST,Alex H. 29 Sep 00 - 11:33 AM
Alice 29 Sep 00 - 11:35 AM
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Subject: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Ed Pellow
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:15 PM

Part of my working week involves teaching a Beginners Internet course.

When I get to search engines, I always recommend www.google.com as the best.

If anyone knows anything better...

Ed


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:21 PM

I've tried Northern Lights and a lot of the common ones, but I keep coming back to Google myself.

Sorry Ed.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Mbo
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:23 PM

Metacrawler.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:25 PM

I love google, but when I teach beginners' courses I use www.dogpile.com because it makes it soooo easy to illustrate the differences between search engines. I also use the Yahoo category of Search Engines to show that there are subject specific engines that can save you a lot of extraneous hits.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Ed Pellow
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:33 PM

Catspaw,

not sure why you're apologising?

Rabbitrunning,

The trouble with dogpile (from my experience) is that whilst it claims to collate results from numerous other search pages, it doesn't.

A dogpile search brings up far less (and different) pages from each search, than any search on the individual site does.

Granted however, it may be a good way to illustrate the differences between different engines. I may try that. Thanks

Ed


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:38 PM

Another Mudcatter (can't remember who now) put us all onto a wonderful search engine called Web Ferret. I haven't used another service since. Do a forum search on ferret and you should be able to track down our benefactor.

Web Ferret submits your search to all the major search engines all at the same time. Then it posts links in the order they are returned individually by the engines. You pick up Google, AltaVista, Yahoo, Metacrawler, everything. What's more, because the search is actually managed by big servers at FerretSoft, you get results much faster than any of the individual engines can provide to you directly.

Take my word for it, we got a great tip with that one.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Quincy
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:40 PM

A survey I read recently in a UK National newspaper....don't know accuracy of it..... said that google was tested and found to be the best all round for speed and coverage worldwide.
Yvonne


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: thosp
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:44 PM

ed -- i've been very happy using --ask jeeves --aj.com ------ so i haven't really bothered with any other ---- if you check it out -- i'd be interested in your opinion vs. google & others --

peace (Y) thosp


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Stewie
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:48 PM

I agree that Google is probably the best, but I also use one that was recommended by Dale Rose some time ago - Intelliseek - with excellent results. It sounds similar to Web Ferret, mentioned above.

Intelliseek

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:50 PM

I love google too. Before I found google, my favorite was HotBot.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:53 PM

That's just an expression Ed.....Meaning that I have no other suggestions although I'd like to help.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: GUEST, mrs_zezam
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 08:01 PM

I like Metafetcher (includes Google & many others)
Try InFind, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 08:07 PM

Granted the dogpile pages don't have very many links, but there's always a link to the individual engines too, so that doesn't bother me much -- and since my main intent with it is to show how very different search engines can be one from the other, it serves me well. I used to only show beginners only one search engine or the "search" button on the browser, but they seemed to get dependent on that single strategy and pretty soon the frustration set in. Since I started teaching with a meta-search engine in the introductory session, the frustration quotient has been lower. (I'm in a public library branch, and my students come back to use our machines a LOT.) Anything that saves me having to come back and spend fifteen more minutes explaining how to experiment with the search in the middle of the homework rush is a plus.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 08:09 PM

The college I am at seems to be in favour of dogpile but Google is my favourite. I still use Yahoo and Altavista too.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 08:17 PM

"Ten years ago I bought a bar of your soap. Since then I have used no other". There was a famous cartoon, probably in Punch (in the early years of what is still this Twentieth Century) - the illustration that went with it showed a fiercesomely unwashed tramp writing this unsolicited testimonial letter to a soap company in the hope of getting a handout.

That not wholly relevant, but Mark Clark's remark about Webferret "I haven't used another service since", made me think of it. It may have been me that put him onto it - I make a point of doing so at every opportunity, because I think it's brilliant. It always seems to come up with the goods within seconds. And it's free, which is always useful, though I believe the version you pay for has some useful extra features.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Alice
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 08:29 PM

dogpile.com ... it searches google and the other top search engines, giving you the results of each of them. I agree with rabitrunning. Google's results are often the best, but I like to save time by having them all search at the same time for what ever I am looking for.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: GUEST,mousethief (from the library)
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 08:45 PM

Google, definitely. If Google can't find what I want, 9 times out of 10 no other search engine can, either.

O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: GUEST,Mickey191
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 09:27 PM

Just found this one - www.webhelp.com -There are 500 people waiting for your question. The web wizard introduces himself and then Excuses while he gathers the info. requested. It may take a few min.s but to my mind it is better than anything I've seen so far. After your answer is given-you are asked if the service has been helpful. I had a 3 day old search going on & in 6 min.s I had my answer. My thought is that soon there will be a charge for this.

Slainte


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: harpgirl
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 10:42 PM

...I go here:

www.Ins.cornell.edu/~seb/qs.html


whoever he is he has good resources!


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: jofield
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 11:41 PM

I was reading a New Yorker article awhile back where the author stated as fact that Yahoo is not really a search engine at all -- only pages approved by Yahoo are presented, and there is a strong implication that some listings are paid for. The piece was about the founders of Google. Since then, I have rarely used anything but Google. All of the others I have tried have the strong whiff of an ulterior commercial motive -- they don't want to help me, they want to deliver me to an advertiser. Especially suspect are services like "LookSmart" that promise the "best of the Web", meaning the best tenderers of payola to LookSmart.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Brendy
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 03:08 AM

Another google fan, here. But if you want a lot of search engines in one place at one time, try ~ this baste ~ . It delivers excellent results IMO.

B.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 03:21 AM

I just had a look at one of the music search engines in the link that Brendy gave. I loved the search result:

  Please narrow your search since:
Your search produced 0 results or,
your search produced too many results

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Amergin
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 03:30 AM

I love Copernic myself....


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:31 AM

Find one that suits your particular needs, and keep trying new ones, is my advice. I moved from Lycos to Google but now prefer Ixquick at http://www.ixquick.com/ or: Click here
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 11:14 AM

McGrath of Harlow, I thought it was you who first told us about Web Ferret but, though I searched, I was unable to find your post to verify the fact. Though I haven't tried it, I have the impression that Dogpile does much the same thing.

Reading over this thread I'm left with the impression that people don't understand what we're saying. Web Ferret uses Google as well as the other popular engines discussed here. If you use Web Ferret, you'll be using your favorite engine, whatever that may be. The point is that your search will be much faster and you'll cover more of the Internet in less time than a direct use of a single search engine will accomplish.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: mg
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 11:27 AM

I like google too...like the name, like the pretty colors...


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: GUEST,Alex H.
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 11:33 AM

I'm a dogpile user myself. Sites such as Dogpile and Web Ferret are most useful if you regularly do several different types of searches. For example, a search for a snatch of an obscure song's lyrics is different from a search for an obscure computer error message. No single site does equally well with all of the different kinds of searches I do.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: Alice
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 11:35 AM

Dogpile doesn't require you to download anything as you have to with Web Ferret. Try www.dogpile.com and you will see the result of your search come up on Looksmart, FindWhat, GoTo, Dogpile web catalog, DirectHit, SprinksFrom About, GOOGLE, Kanoodle, Infoseek, Lycos, Dogpile open dirctory, RealNames, AltaVista, and Yahoo. Dogpile gives you the first 0 to 10 results to your search on each of these search engines, and then you can choose whichever one has the best results. Dogpile saves ALOT of time.

dogpile

Alice


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Subject: RE: BS: What is the best Search Engine?
From: JTT
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 03:17 PM

I tried that Cornell one - www.Ins.cornell.edu/~seb/qs.html - that Harpgirl suggested, but the page wouldn't open.


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