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strings for dadgad tuning

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The Sandman 04 Jul 25 - 02:25 AM
Backwoodsman 04 Jul 25 - 03:11 AM
Fred 04 Jul 25 - 08:07 AM
GUEST,Ray 04 Jul 25 - 09:38 AM
The Sandman 04 Jul 25 - 10:09 AM
The Sandman 04 Jul 25 - 10:38 AM
Fred 04 Jul 25 - 10:53 AM
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Fred 04 Jul 25 - 11:20 AM
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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 02:25 AM

Iit does not have an adjustable truss rod or any other visible truss rod there is no way i would put heavy strings on it.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 03:11 AM

Then it has the non-adjustable steel truss rod which, of course, being totally contained within the neck/fingerboard and having no adjuster, would not be visible. But, whether it’s visible or not, it’s there.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: Fred
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 08:07 AM

This can be quickly sorted one way or t'other -

take a magnet to the neck :)

Fred


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 09:38 AM

Just to be clear, all modern Fylde guitars have truss rods and I suspect they’re adjustable. Even my 2009 Fylde mandolin has an adjustable rod.

I also have a suspicion that Fylde are concerned that people will fiddle with them in order to adjust an instrument’s action.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 10:09 AM

FRED , I just tried the magnet idea on a Rathbone that definitely has a visible adjustable truss rod,the magmnet fell off.
Ray, i have had this particular fylde since 1986, hardly modern.it does not have a visible adjustable truss rod.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 10:38 AM

Fylde Guitars has produced guitars without truss rods. Specifically, they designed a neck concept with no truss rod or metal components, relying instead on carbon fiber reinforcement. This design was explored in a guitar where, apart from the tuners and strap pins, no metal was present in the neck.
Here's a more detailed explanation:

    Fylde's Truss Rod Experiment:
    Fylde Guitars, known for its innovative approaches to guitar building, has experimented with necks that don't incorporate truss rods.

Carbon Fiber Reinforcement:
In these guitars, the neck's stability and resistance to bending are achieved through the use of carbon fiber reinforcement.
Minimal Metal Components:
The concept extends to minimizing metal in the neck, with only tuners and strap pins being the exceptions.
"Honest" Design:
Fylde founder, Roger Bucknall, has expressed a preference for this truss-rod-less design, finding it "honest" and simple, and highlighting its effectiveness, according to a Fylde Guitars news article.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: Fred
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 10:53 AM

Dick -

I've never owned a Fylde, so I'm not really in a position to comment on 'em.

However, just because you can't see it, it doesn't mean your Fylfe has no truss rod. A wartime Martin had/ /has no metal truss rod, and it would fail a magnet test, but there's still one there, albeit non-metal.

You can settle this by contacting Fylde who, I'm sure, will be glad to help.

Cheers
Fred


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 11:01 AM

Sandman - I said “modern”. 1986 is almost 40 years ago!

Anyone particularly interested in the evolution of Fylde truss rods might like to email Roger.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: Fred
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 11:01 AM

Fylde even! Predictive text sh*t.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: Fred
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 11:20 AM

Dick -

Re: magnet test. The magnet WON'T 'stick' to the guitar neck. The idea is to hold it and move it to and from the neck. Any resistance? It may only be slight. Try again.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 03:20 PM

A non-adjustable neck-reinforcement is still a truss-rod. Fyldes have a truss-rod regardless of age - some are adjustable, some are non-adjustable, some may be steel, some may be other materials, but all are truss-rods.

That is the point of my original post of 03 Jul 25 - 04:09 PM, which The Sandman appears to have missed. Hopefully all is understood now.

Now back to the thread topic - strings for DADGAD tuning.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 05:12 PM

Boloney, there is no way i am putting heavy strings tuned to dadgad on my fylde guitar, whatever you might say Backwoodsman


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: Fred
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 06:31 PM

"Resistance" is the wrong word. Attraction is what I should've used.

Hold a magnet loosely and move it towards the guitar neck. As the magnet gets close it will slip from your loose grip and go to the neck if there's any metal inside.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 08:16 PM

”Boloney, there is no way i am putting heavy strings tuned to dadgad on my fylde guitar, whatever you might say Backwoodsman”

I haven’t said anything about using heavy strings, in fact I haven’t said anything about strings at all. All I’ve done is correct your erroneous statement that “Most of them don’t have truss rods”, and explained that they do, in fact, have truss rods although older Fyldes’ truss rods aren’t adjustable, and may be other materials than steel.

Perhaps you’d care to point out where you think I’ve said anything about “Putting heavy strings on your Fylde guitar”? (Clue: I haven’t, and you can’t).


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Jul 25 - 02:48 AM

using nylon strings will solve the problem, in the meantime I will contact fylde with the serial number of guitar and get informed comment. Backwoodsman thankyou for your information


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Jul 25 - 04:39 AM

OP ORIGINAL QUESTION
which are better for DADGAD tuning light or Heavy strings?

Surely the answer depends on the style of the guitrist, and also the sound the player requires


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Jul 25 - 06:07 AM

For any guitar dedicated to DADGAD, I use True Mediums (Medium 1st, 2nd, and 6th, and Light 3rd, 4th, and 5th) on my Lowden and Martins. On my McNally OM, I stick with Lights (12-53 or 54). All work fine for DADGAD.

For the record, I never use anything heavier than Mediums (12-56) on my guitars. I have never used Heavy (14-59) strings on any of my guitars, nor have I ever recommended then to anyone, anywhere, at any time. In fact I wouldn’t have the faintest clue where they might be available.


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Subject: RE: strings for dadgad tuning
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Jul 25 - 11:54 AM

1867 was made in 1980. It is almost certain to have a reinforced but not adjustable neck. Its easy to check- if there is no adjuster, then it isnt adjustable.

Be aware though, that adjustable truss rods only control neck straightness, nothing else.

Hope that helps
quote Roger ,
my apologies Backwoodsman


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