BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: GUEST,clogger
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:43 PM

Wrong quote.... it should be
Life's a beach, and then you fry!
80)

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:35 PM

Amos:

Would you like someone to call you a two-bit, wool-brained, half-assed, blood-thirsty, weasel-eyed, numb-nuts mindless son of a bitch?

I think you are getting carried away with rhetoric.

What if you opened the LA Times and found a reporter calling Bush a two-bit, wool-brained, half-assed, blood-thirsty, weasel-eyed, numb-nuts mindless son of a bitch?

If you think that is cool why don't you apply for a job?

You are going to die anyway. Why be miserable until then?

Someone said: Life's a bitch and then you die.

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: GUEST,clogger
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:24 PM

O.K. Herb ...... great advice, but the advice is to atain Nirvana!!
Don't forget that the Bagavhad Gita was a discourse carried out in themiddle of a war field! If the advice is to do nothing then it is a form of Pasive/Agresive behaviourism (god I hate myself for spouting this pscycobable)
Maybe the "way" is to take note of all arguements and form your own opinion, whilst being prepaired to accept that you may be wrong
As a great man once said "may your God go with you"

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:22 PM

And if he doesn't know what his queat is, then he should relinguish his quest instead.

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:21 PM

I am not so fancy with words.

1) Being anti-war is rational
2) Being anti-Bush is optional; I don't like him because he's an asshole
3) Dr Chopra has a really neat marketing scheme and he's likely making a fortune with his lectures and books. He should relinquish his queat for money because it will mess up his head

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: Amos
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:21 PM

Serenity is a very different quality from resignation and apathy, friends. It is wise not to confuse the two.

I speak out against Mister Bush's administration because it is corrosive to the well-being of others.

I actually don't have any hatred invested in him, for two reasons. One is that I have learned that letting another induce hatred in you is a good way to weaken yourself, spiritually. If I am capable of serentiy, I would not be wise to allow another being to make me adopt some lower emotion.

The second reason is that I'll be damned if I will waste my emotional energy hating some two-bit, wool-brained, half-assed, blood-thirsty, weasel-eyed, numb-nuts mindless son of a bitch. I wouldn't dignify the being with that sort of power.

So, in essence I agree with you; but I feel that I will be a freer and better soul if I continue to speak the truth, as well as I can. Surely, to do less than that is a disservice to my fellow beings here on Earth.

Transcendentally yours,

A.

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:21 PM

Oh, I think he's a danger too, but what should I do about it? I mean, like, today, for instance? What should I do today to make the world a better place? Any constructive ideas?

If I was really smart, I wouldn't even be here right now, asking you that question...I'd be doing something useful in the real world.

Hmmm.

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:12 PM

Having personal serenity does not preclude anger or indignation in the presence of injustice. To meekly sit by and let someone usurp one's rights or those of others and act like its none of one's business is not enlightened behavior. It's irresponsible behavior.

I do not dislike George W. Bush because he is a representation of the things I don't like about myself. I dislike him because he is a danger to the human race.

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:00 PM

I'd have to agree, Old Guy. That's why it says in the Bible (and the Baghavad Gita and many other holy books) not to judge others. Still, it's a great temptation to go after various people one doesn't like or agree with...and most of us just can't resist it. To some, it's a veritable way of life. Some people come to this forum, in fact, just so they can fight with other people. That's kind of amusing, in a twisted sort of way...

I knew a dog like that when I was a kid. He was a scrawny little spaniel-terrier or something, and he hated all other dogs and wanted to fight with them. Some kind of over-developed territorial instinct, I guess. So, he had fights with the other dogs all the time. He was a lousy fighter, and most of them didn't even take him that seriously, so they would kind of laugh it off, but occasionally he would encounter a really nasty dog and get totally pulverized. This did not teach him anything useful. He would lie around recovering for a few days, and then come back for more. He lived a miserable life, still picking fights when he was old and almost toothless. He was reduced to "gumming" his opponents! Finally he died, having never done much of anything except eat and fight...over absolutely nothing.

I would not want to be that dog.

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 02:45 PM

I have been saying that the bashers here are making theirselves miserable for nothing. Just think about the bad stuff that happens and let it go.

In business, when I would get mad about a supplier or client, my brother used to tell me "write up all those complaint letters and hate mail, put them in an envelope, address it and drop it in the trash can. Then you will feel better."

This is the way the world is. If you are ever going to make a difference in thw world, you have to accept it, go out into the mean old world and do something like run for office.

Subject: RE: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 02:34 PM

WHOA!!!

You are so right, Herb. Or should I say, Deepak Chopra is so right. In every single word.

However, those words will largely fall upon unreceptive soil here, because the vast majority of people would far rather be "right" than be happy...or kind...or tolerant. They'd far rather be at war with others forever than at peace within themselves.

It's easier to scream at and blame other people than it is to face one's own inner demons and quell them.

Accordingly, get ready for an avalanche of intemperate and hostile and sarcastic reactions to the wisdom you have posted above. If, however, you have really learned and applied what Dr Chopra is teaching, that won't bother you in the least.

God bless.

- Little Hawk

Subject: BS: Advice for anti-war anti-bushites here
From: GUEST,Herb
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 02:17 PM

I see a lot of unecessary anger here. Some people cannot accept the world as it is and they are constantly upset and fighting things they will never change.

Here is some good advice:

1. Shed the burden of judgment and you will feel much lighter. Judgment imposes right and wrong on situations that just are. everything can be understood and forgiven, but when you judge, you cut off understanding and shut down the process of learning to love. In judging others, you reflect your lack of self-acceptance.

2. When you find yourself reacting with anger or opposition to any
person or circumstance, realize that you are only struggling with
yourself. Putting up resistance is the response of defenses created by
old hurts. When you relinquish this anger, you will be healing yourself and cooperating with the flow of the universe.

3. Live in the present, for it is the only moment you have. Keep your
attention on what is here and now; look for the fullness in every moment. Accept what comes to you totally and completely so that you can appreciate it, learn from it, and then let it go. The present is as it should be. It reflects infinite laws of Nature that have brought you this exact thought, this exact physical response. This moment is as it is because the universe is as it is. Don't struggle against the infinite scheme of things; instead, be at one with it.

4. Relinquish your need for external approval. You alone are the judge
of your worth, and your goal is to discover infinite worth in yourself, no matter what anyone else thinks. There is great freedom in this realization.

5. Know that the world "out there" reflects your reality "in here." The people you react to most strongly, whether you love or hate, are
projections of your inner world. What you most hate is what you most
deny in yourself. What you most love is what you most wish for in
yourself. Use the mirror of relationships to guide your evolution. The
goal is total self-knowledge. When you achieve that, what you most
want will automatically be there, and what you most dislike will
disappear.

6. Don't contaminate your body with toxins, either through food, drink, or toxic emotions. Your body is more than a life-support system. It is the vehicle that will carry you on the journey of your evolution. The health of every cell directly contributes to your state of well-being, because every cell is a point of awareness within the field of awareness that is you.

7. Replace fear-motivated behavior with love-motivated behavior. Fear is the product of memory, which dwells in the past. Remembering what hurt us before, we direct our energies toward making certain that an old hurt will not repeat itself. But trying to impose the past on the present will never wipe out the threat of being hurt. That happens only when you find the security of your own being, which is love. Motivated by the truth inside you, you can face any threat because your inner strength is invulnerable to fear.

8. Understand that the physical world is just a mirror of a deeper
intelligence. Intelligence is the invisible organizer of all matter and energy, and since a portion of this intelligence resides in you, you share in the organizing power of the cosmos. Because you are inseparably linked to everything, you cannot afford to foul the planet's air and water. But at a deeper level, you cannot afford to live with a toxic mind, because every thought makes an impression on the whole field of intelligence. Living in balance and purity is the highest good for you and the Earth.

9. Listen to your body's wisdom, which expresses itself through signals of comfort and discomfort. When choosing a certain behavior, ask your body, "How do you feel about this?" If your body sends a signal of physical or emotional distress, watch out. If your body sends a signal of comfort and eagerness, proceed.

10. Take time to be silent, to meditate, to quiet the internal dialogue. In moments of silence, realize that you are recontacting your source of pure awareness. Pay attention to your inner life so that you can be guided by intuition rather than externally imposed interpretations of what is or isn't good for you.

(Excerpted from Ageless Body, Timeless Mind by Dr. Deepak Chopra)