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Sawzaw 23 Apr 10 - 12:32 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 23 Apr 10 - 12:16 PM
Amos 23 Apr 10 - 11:45 AM
Sawzaw 23 Apr 10 - 11:34 AM
Amos 23 Apr 10 - 10:52 AM
Bobert 23 Apr 10 - 07:56 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 23 Apr 10 - 02:48 AM
Amos 22 Apr 10 - 09:51 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 22 Apr 10 - 09:46 PM
Bobert 22 Apr 10 - 09:39 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 22 Apr 10 - 09:18 PM
Don Firth 22 Apr 10 - 08:47 PM
Bobert 22 Apr 10 - 08:42 PM
mousethief 22 Apr 10 - 08:35 PM
ichMael 22 Apr 10 - 08:19 PM
Bobert 22 Apr 10 - 06:43 PM
Amos 22 Apr 10 - 03:38 PM
Don Firth 22 Apr 10 - 03:03 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 22 Apr 10 - 09:26 AM
mousethief 22 Apr 10 - 12:58 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 22 Apr 10 - 12:44 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 21 Apr 10 - 11:49 PM
Sawzaw 21 Apr 10 - 11:47 PM
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Bobert 21 Apr 10 - 10:38 PM
ichMael 21 Apr 10 - 10:28 PM
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Bobert 21 Apr 10 - 07:52 AM
Sawzaw 21 Apr 10 - 01:31 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 12:32 PM

Oyveh Oyveh Oyveh.

Let it be known throughout Mudcatainiastan that Amos the Magnificent, master and black belt holder of the Ad Hominum attack, does no concern himself wjth what is happening under his nose.

He is only concerned with spinning what has happened in the past.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 12:16 PM

Geez!..Amos is getting more frantic, as Obama's approval rating sinks down, and the rest of the nation,(and world) is not so infatuated with his hype. He's really not any better than Bush..actually, I think he's a bit worse.
But, on the other hand, I've gotten more back into my music, composing and recording, and just waiting for the other shoe to drop politically. Frankly, I don't see how anyone can see that we're better off with this administration, over the last!...Can you??????

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 11:45 AM

Oyez!! Oyez!! Let the record show that Sawz does NOT hold with people being focused on past issues.

All past issues including Sawz' own obsession with past issues are covered by this proclamation.

Any who--as Sawz did in the past--obsess about past issues shall be diagnosed as suffering from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 11:34 AM

Bobert:

How about allowing an industry to write it's own reform laws?

You can do that when you donate $994,795.00 to Obama's 2008 campaign, $4,463,788 to Democrats and $1,459,961 to Repubs. And that is Goldman Sachs alone.

CNN JOHN KING show Aired April 20, 2010

....They don't have to enforce certain things. Is that what we're talking about here in all these back door regulations? They're going through changing one word at a time through what is hundreds of pages of legislation?

YELLIN: Absolutely. And one staff member on the Hill told me that they refer -- there's something called the blob. The blob is the combination of lobbyists and staffers working on the bill constantly talking and conferring on what should be in it. And it's such a prevalent part, it is just such an accepted part at how business is done, they name it.

KING: It is striking to me because one senator told me this and I went up to another senator who said they're trying to change shall to may. And I went up to another and said so when the Goldman lobbyists come to you and he said shall/may --....


That's how Chris Dodd finally read the TARP bill and discovered his own staffers put in a clause that specifically protected huge Wall Street bonuses.

And they are doing it while the "progressives" are displaying their OCD by still wailing about past issues.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 10:52 AM

Well, sweety, you're the one who stuck it up there, and if it wasn't about what it said but some other mysterious ubertopic, you could have had the decency to say what you really meant.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 07:56 AM

Well, first things first... Amos is my bud so I ain't going no futher out from the shore than I have allready waded...

Second things second... Yeah, she asks me every day how things went... Mostly she's lookin' fir me to say something that she disagrees with... lol... Nah, we get along fine now that I have internalized "You can either be right or be happy but not neither"... That is the onlyest way to get along with womenz...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 02:48 AM

Amos, oh Dear Amos.....that's what you only THOUGHT it was about??????

I think, because you're head is full of politics, and your love affair with Obama, you missed the point, and bought into the lame rhetoric of this administration!.......Stick to music!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:51 PM

Oh, for crying out loud. Bobert, GfS posted a piece of crap about people being upset because the US flag was NOT flying over various US aid installations in Haiti. And makes a big deal of same by stressing this is really happening. We're pouring millions of manhours and dollars in to the effort of helping people. Why the F**K should anyone carer if we are flying flags or not? Are they so lamebrained as to think our efforts are less American because we don't wrap them up in a damned FLAG? What's important here--reality? Or a bunch of jingoistic symbols?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:46 PM

Thanks Bobert...I thought so, too. Too many emotional tantrums from the left side of things, without supporting facts!

By the way, (being as I owe you one).....Remember the 'Womenz' thread?...here's one for you......When was the last time, when you came home from work, (or whatever), did mama, ask, 'How was your day?'

Winking,
GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:39 PM

Yeah, Amos... Even ol' hillbily wondering what it is that GfS said that got that kinda blast???

I mean, I read it as sarcasim... You know, like not real... Yeah, Amos, I'll be the first to admit that GfS, on many occasions, is like GfI (Guest from Insanity...lol) but I think this time (horrors) I think that GfS is well within the sanity ballpark...

Sorry, pal, I'll make it up to you somehow....

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:18 PM

Amos: "What a bogus, bolloxed up, false-trail bullshit red herring of an issue. GfS, you should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing it up. KeeeRIST, the poppycock that invades some people's brains around here is mind-boggling!!"

Now that's what I call a great 'dialogue'...with supporting facts, as well!...Oh well, what can one expect from a 'progressive'....

Single Sentence Definitions, Beliefs or practices of Progressive

"1. Progressive is a characterization of political belief and practice generally to the left of liberal and to the right of Marxist, yet sharing important overlap with both."

No, thank you!


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 08:47 PM

What a load of dingo's kidneys!!!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 08:42 PM

As for Haiti??? It needa ll the help it can get right now... Hey, I don't think that the folks in Haiti are lookin' at the many fine outsiders who are there helping as colonialists... I don't think Obama or the US even has any aspirations of colonialism 'cause, let's face it, Haiti ain't state material right now... Haiti's resorrces are not what trad-colonilaist think of when lookin' around for some stuff the steal... Quite the opposite with Haiti...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 08:35 PM

By the "liberal" media.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: ichMael
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 08:19 PM

The U.S. mission to Haiti IS a military occupation. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was the only representative to vote against the "aid" resolution to Haiti. Before the vote Paul said:

"I rise in reluctant opposition to this resolution. Certainly I am moved by the horrific destruction in Haiti and would without hesitation express condolences to those who have suffered and continue to suffer. As a medical doctor, I have through my career worked to alleviate the pain and suffering of others. Unfortunately, however, this resolution does not simply express our condolences, but rather it commits the US government "to begin the reconstruction of Haiti" and affirms that "the recovery and long-term needs of Haiti will require a sustained commitment by the United States. . . ." I do not believe that a resolution expressing our deep regret and sorrow over this tragedy should be used to commit the United States to a "long-term" occupation of Haiti...."

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=547

Rasmussen just reported Ron Paul at 41% and Obama/Soetoro at 42% in the race for president.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41

Obama's handlers know a trend when they see it. Look for Obama to start adopting more of Ron Paul's stances. And that's all they'll be--stances. Or poses, more accurately.

The bigger story in this is that the media has been ordered to turn on Obama, with bits like this thing about the flags. Remember when he could do no wrong? Compare that time to now. He's being slowly jettisoned.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 06:43 PM

Well, Sawz... I think we do need to rehash yet again what has gotten US into this mess becasue lots of folks have been led to believe that regulation is "socialism" and/or evil... Until folks understand that regulating certain industry practices, while maybe not what that industry wants, is the tonic then we ain't gonna solve squat...

"A problem cannot be solved with the same conscousness that created it"... Einstein...

In other words, allowing industry to police itself is a recipe for disaster...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 03:38 PM

What a bogus, bolloxed up, false-trail bullshit red herring of an issue. GfS, you should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing it up. KeeeRIST, the poppycock that invades some people's brains around here is mind-boggling!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 03:03 PM

How soon we forget!!

(Some people, anyway.)

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:26 AM

Mouser: "Yes who would possibly equate the US flag with militarism and foreign invasion? Li'l ol' isolationist USA?"

Huh???


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 12:58 AM

Yes who would possibly equate the US flag with militarism and foreign invasion? Li'l ol' isolationist USA?


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 12:44 AM

THIS IS FOR REAL.

Following the devastating earthquake in Haiti, the United States rushed in to help - with money, medicine, and manpower. To date, we've already given over $179 million in humanitarian aid... but Barack Obama has just ordered all U.S. installations to take down their American flags, lest we be seen as an "occupying army" rather than "international partners."

It is patently appalling that a president of the United States would consider our flag to be a symbol of militaristic takeovers and colonialism, especially when serving (to a greater degree than any other nation on Earth) a humanitarian purpose.

Additionally, who would think we'd want to occupy Haiti?!


No other country giving aid in Haiti has lowered its flag. But then again, no other country has a leader who is offended by their own flag.



Hope and Change????


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 11:49 PM

A Republican, in a wheelchair, entered a restaurant one afternoon and
asked the waitress for a cup of coffee. The Republican looked across the
restaurant and asked, "Is that Jesus sitting over there?"

    The waitress nodded "yes," so the Republican requested that she give
Jesus a cup of coffee, on him.

   The next patron to come in was a Libertarian, with a hunched back. He
shuffled over to a booth, painfully sat down, and asked the waitress for a
cup of hot tea. He also glanced across the restaurant and asked, "Is that
Jesus, over there?"

The waitress nodded, so the Libertarian asked her to give Jesus a cup of
hot tea, "My treat."

The third patron to come into the restaurant was a Democrat on crutches.
He hobbled over to a booth, sat down and hollered, "Hey there honey! How's
about gettin' me a cold mug of Miller Light?" He too looked across the
restaurant and asked, "Isn't that God's boy over there?

The waitress nodded, so the Democrat directed her to give Jesus a cold
beer. "On my bill," he said loudly.

      As Jesus got up to leave, he passed by the Republican, touched him
and said, "For your kindness, you are healed." The Republican felt the
strength come back into his legs, got up, and danced a jig out the door.

   Jesus passed by the Libertarian, touched him and said, "For your
kindness, you are healed." The Libertarian felt his back straightening up
and he raised his hands, praised the Lord, and did a series of back flips
out the door.

   Then, Jesus walked towards the Democrat, just smiling.

    The Democrat jumped up and yelled, "Don't touch me ... I'm collecting disability."


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 11:47 PM

Bobert: I don't think rehashing the past for the 2824th time is productive. I am not going to accuse you of having OCD but it seems that way. A display of bitterness.

Where is the common ground, the consensus? How is that making the world a better place?

"Obama is not only a decent man but a very intellectually curious one"

I agree with that. Is there anything I said that you agree with?

The only reason I called you a racist is because you paint entire classes of people as racist unfairly in my opinion and I wondered how you would like it yourself.

I also believe people that unfairly call someone else a racist, are racist them selves. Racism is about unfairness.

The reason I called you a bigot is because one of the definitions of a bigot is someone that is intolerant of anyone else s political views or doctrines. I think you have illustrated your intolerance here.

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

The correct use of the term requires the elements of obstinacy, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing devotion.


Do you believe there ever was or will be a society where everybody agrees on everything?


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 11:09 PM

Ichy: knock it off with the negativism. Democrats are no more or less guilty than Republicans of terrorism.

They both use scare tactics and posturing to achieve their main objective, re election.

It is up to the people to not fall for their divide and conquer tactics. To wise up and quit bickering.

They use race baiting, class warfare, threats to national security, whatever. They spend money we don't have to buy the votes of some groups of the population or to reward Groups and companies the give them campaign money.

As per the plan, people form two tribes. Us and them, good vs evil, Repubs vs Dems, smart vs stupid, rich vs poor. It is so easy to see like the Bloods and Crips, Sunni and Shia. The media make a killing off of the division too. Watch my show, buy my book. I will tell you what you want to hear about how evil the other side is.

Tell these bureaucrats they are doing a lousy job and throw their asses out on every election cycle for ten years or so and they will soon learn that their performance is what counts, not their hype and words.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 10:38 PM

I agree on Bush I, Clinton, Bush II entirely... All the same... No, throw in Reagan, too... I mean, it's been a 3 decade downward spiril for the working class... Oh sure, the US is just as wealthy as it has ever been... Problem is that all the wealth has been corraled by Boss Hog...

As for Obama??? You have locked into too many conspiracy theories where it is impossible for a decent man to become president... By all standards, Obama is not only a decent man but a very intellectually curious one, also... I would have voted for him regardless of party...

Bobert (long time Green Party foot souldier)...


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: ichMael
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 10:28 PM

Well it's good that we find something to agree on, about the neocons. You folks think I'm bashing Obama, but I'm not. I'm bashing the system that goes from Bush 1 to Clinton to Bush 2 to Obama. The same bankers run all of them. Obama's not thoughtful. That's a facade. He's a fast-tracked mass murderer, same as GW Bush.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 10:14 PM

Well, itch... Yeah, we do blame both wars that Obama inhereted on Bush... But not only Bush... Bush was too ignorant and dumb to realize that the bill off gods that was being sold to him was junk...

Richard Pearl and Paul Wolfowitz tried the same stuff on Bill Clinton and Clinton said, "No thanks"...

Throw in Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Donnie Rumsfeld and Bush was in way over his head... These folks represented the neo-con vision of the world... One where the US would run the planet... Kinda like the Roman Empire or, more recently, Hitler's Germany....

So Bush, being the C-, frat-boy, coke-kead, drunk, crook was not in any position intellectually to refute or hold back the people in his circle...

I mean, folks may or may not like Obma but you can bet that no one is going to get over on him... He's, ahhhhhhh, a thoughtful man, for a change...

This from a long term Green Party worker, supporter and voter...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: ichMael
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 08:45 PM

The Republican party is a terrorist organization too, Bill D. Look at the 3 requirements to be considered a "domestic terrorist":

1) Endanger human life and
2) Break a law while you
3) Attempt to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion.

The Iraq war. People want to blame it on Bush (even though it's Barry/Barack Obama's war now). But fine, blame it on the Republicans. We were lied into the war. Did the Republicans endanger human life in launching the war? Yes. Did they break laws? Yes. Was it done in an attempt to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion? Yes--policy in both the U.S. and Iraq.

So why don't the Democrats sue over the issue? Or at least lock up Bush and Cheney? I'd love to see that.

Almost everything done in Washington now is a terrorist act if you apply the 3 criteria mentioned in the PATRIOT Act.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 01:17 PM

David Axelrod on NPR:

"In Chicago, there was an old tradition of throwing a brick through your own campaign office window, and then calling a press conference to say that you've been attacked."


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 12:44 PM

Repblican congressman Eric Cantor claims someone shot at his office. He surmised it was because he was leading opposition to healthcare reform. As it turns out, a preliminary investigation shows that a bullet was fired into the air and struck the window in a downward direction, landing on the floor about a foot from the window. The round struck with enough force to break the windowpane but did not penetrate the window blinds. There was no other damage to the room, which is used occasionally for meetings by the congressman. A spent bullet that had been randomly fired into the air happens to hit the window of a room that isn't even in his main office and Cantor uses it to create a false equivalency with the Democrats who have been targeted by anti-reform extremists. So why isn't the OP of this thread calling the Republican Party a terrorist organization.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 07:52 AM

I don't go calling people here racists, Sawz... Yes, I do use the term in reference to groups of people within society... If you feel that yer in one of those groups then you might want to rethink your associations...

But to ***single out*** another Mudcatter as either a racist or a bigot is out of bounds here in this folk music forum... Asshole, knothead, knuckehead, jerk, yeah... Heck, I don't much mind being called that kinda stuff...

Racist or bigot??? No... Not from me personally toward another memeber and vice versa...

Unless it is well earned... But it had better be so overt that Hellen Keller could see it from the grave and I doubt if it was that overt that Joe Offer would allow such a post to stand...

So, argue whatever points you want... That's pefrectly okay just tone down yer "direct" attack labels and all will be fine... Might even go a long way toward me removing the "obsessive compulsive" label I have had to put on you...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 01:31 AM

Yeah I got it Bobert but you believe anybody that didn't do all those things are somehow racist. You think they are not qualified to make their own judgments so you have to jump in there keep them straight.

You don't know me either. Do you think I purposefully avoided doing all those things you did? The reason I call you racist is because you obsess over it as if it is some sort of religion.

I have no problems with race, only the people who keep whipping the horse. The flames of racism will never die as long as people keep pouring on the gasoline. As long as they want everybody to treat one person different from another person because of their race.

I will give you an example. Obama gave a speech on something. It was a good speech but after wards there were these "progressives" saying "Oooh I almost forgot he was black"

Jesus Christ on a crutch. Why do they have to keep remembering he is black unless they are racist? I don't even think about it anymore. It is a fact of life.

Every time I hear on the radio somebody was "black man" or "he was a white man" I think why in the fuck do they have to mention that? The only difference it could possibly make is to piss somebody off and serves no positive purpose.

The whole world would be a better place if we quit saying it.

Do we still call each other whops or frogs or krauts? That shit died out. Let the black and white die out too.

When you say something like "So ya'll righties want to see the country sink further in the recession to get the "nigga" out???"

What the hell are you saying? You accusing people that do not happen to agree with Obama of wanting to ruin the country because they are racist and don't like him.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe people don't like his policies?

No you don't think so you want to start up some kind of racial thing to protect Obama. You want to play the race card.

Do you believe it is impossible for him to be wrong? If he does not do a good job is it possible to elect someone else or we can't do that because of his race?

You are not going to make the world a better place with those racial accusations. You are only going to make it worse.

I think a large majority of people think Obama is a good guy that means well. I do. I think they were hoping the race thing would be over. I remember talking to people and saying so

However somre of these same people believe the things he wants to do are not realistic and unachievable, especially in a bad economy. It has nothing to do with race.

But you who uses the L word like taking another breath believe people are by default, liars.

I take the charge if lying very seriously. I don't think I have ever called anybody a liar. I think not civilized, it is anti social and selfish. It shows the demeanor of the people making the accusation rather than the accused.

If you think people have to be treated differently because of their race then go ahead but I would rather just get on with life.

I don't expect to be treated any differently by any race than they would treat people of their own race or any race. Like wise with religion gender Etc.

There are still racists but they are getting fewer and fewer. In time racism will die out but as long as people keep bringing it up again and again, it will never die.

But you have to keep projecting racisim, hate, killing etc on somebody else because you are intolerant of their beliefs or ideas and you have to stop them. They are evil cause they disagree with you.

What are you accomplishing? Peace? good will? Harmony? Do you think you are teaching anybody anything?

People need to find out what they agree on and work from there, finding more and more things they agree on. First thing you know they are feeling better and more optimistic and start agreeing to things they were against.

You are working in the other direction. Where is that leading? Will it make the world a better place?


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 10:11 PM

Sawz, by trying to lay that kind of thing on Bobert, you just lost a bucketful of credibility, and believe me, you don't have that much to lose.

And what makes that kind of bogus comment downright ludicrous is that judging by a lot of your posts, you'd make an even better Archie Bunker that Carroll O'Conner did. Hard to beat type-casting.

Except for one thing:   O'Conner was funny. You're not.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 08:23 PM

Find someone else to obsess over... And don't ever call me a racist again or I'll hunt yer cowardly ass down and put a hillbilly ass whup on you that you'll never forget... That is the one label that I will not have thrown at me... Square business...

Got it???

BTW, I ain't pissed off about about nuthin' except you and yer buddy, itchy, thinkin' that it's okay to call me a racist... Neither of you know shit about me...

Tell ya' what, Sawz... Tell the folks here just how involved you and your family were in the civil rights movement... Tell 'um how you spent almost 20 years of yer life working with and living with black folks... Yeah, tell 'um... Tell 'um how yer family brought a young black kid into yer family who lived as yer brother until he was tradgically killed in an auto accident just a couple monthys shy of his 21st birthday... Yeah, tell 'um... Tell 'um of how much time you spent in Tent City during the "Poor People Campaign"... tell how you became a blues musican by going into Mississippi several times and hanging for days and weeks with rural black bluesplayers... Yeah, tell 'um... Tell 'um how you spent almost every Saturday afternoon for years and years at a Archie Edwards Barber Shop in NE Washington, DC playing blues with black people.... Yeah, tell 'um... Tell 'um about how the late N.J. Warren would call me son and I would call him dad... Yeah, tell 'um, Saws...

Until then, you have no right to make stupid, ignorant statements about me or anyone else...

Got it, now???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 11:58 PM

Bobert's still pissed because he was rejected for the part of Archie Bunker.

They said he was too bigoted and racist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: ichMael
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 10:36 PM

Shuler's a censured liar. It's his M.O. They needed a white guy to say he heard the black guys called names. And he's dumb enough to think it wasn't any big deal. But it's domestic terrorism. Or so I think. I've turned over what I have pieced together to some reporters. We shall see what happens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 10:27 PM

ichMael: I may pass on the Shuler webpage.

This has a lot of the same letters as "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up."


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: ichMael
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 09:26 PM

I may pass on the Shuler webpage. I'm trying to interest some journalists in picking up the domestic terrorism angle.

Shuler made his false allegations on the weekend before the healthcare vote. 2/3 of America against the bill, juggernaut pushing ahead to a vote, then it's Time Out to finger point over the N-word, while the vote comes and goes. Shuler was part of a diversionary ruse.

Then later he said the reporter made a mistake. But (this is the interesting part), Shuler has a history of lying to the media. He did it once before in a case involving the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority). Look up Shuler+TVA etc and you'll see the stories. He lied to the press.

I hope the reporters I contacted with this stuff see the connections. In a couple of weeks, if this is headline news, you can tell people you heard it here first.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 08:44 PM

So, Donuel, I think you oughtta start a contest as to which of our rightie-wing nuts here in Mudville is going to be the next Tim McVeigh???

Whaddayathink??? It got *Donuel* written all over it...

I donno???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 04:04 PM

I have taken baths deeper than the originator of this thread.

This thread is a trollish example of the ideological remnants of the KKK, John Birch society, The National Prayer Breakfast (C Street) crowd and the myriad of hate groups with single or multiple issue grudges.

This being the McVeigh bombing anniversery, the emotions of the right wing is running high with a sense of pride in the menancing agnst they instill in the civil and historicly aware citizens of our beloved country.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 09:23 AM

I take that as a compliment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 07:41 AM

Don't flatter yerself, itch... Yer just the new kid on the block and not in the same league as Sawz...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 06:53 AM

Oh dear, looks like the mods deleted my polite invitation for you to depart from our doors... can't understand why, didn't use any naughty words....


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: GUEST,Kendall
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 05:23 AM

Not only did the Yanks take many of your women off your hands, they also kept you from having to learn to speak Japanese. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 02:53 AM

Bobert claims I followed him from another website.

I was searching for the origin of some of the weird stuff he posts on mudcat and found his postings on another forum.

I put some of the statements he made on the other forum here and he claims that is somehow wrong.

Whenever I find a conflicting post he made on mudcat and bring it to his attention, he claims that is somehow wrong.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 12:21 AM

"they're all stupid Yanks"

I think I said that? It's a common friendly Aussie insult born out of the fact that they came over here to help defend our country and married many of our girls.

We don't really consider ourselves to 'live under a Queen' here. Damn, I can remember the days when we only HAD one Queen in Australia... :-)

Of course I am from Queensland... :-P

But you are pretty interesting because you show the kind of mental deterioration that so many Republicans are displaying right now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 12:16 AM

that little bit of "projectionism"

Is projectionism when you say somebody hates this or that about 22 times without them actually having said they hate something?

"Projectionism is particularly common among racists & other bigots. They will commonly make bigoted comments & then deny that they are bigots; and further defend themselves by accusing the person that normally initially accuses them first of being the very thing that they more often than not end up accusing the other person of being."

I was satirically comparing you to an Ayatollah, an ultimate authority figure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 12:04 AM

itchy: But you are pretty interesting because you show the kind of mental deterioration that so many Democrats are displaying right now.

You can't be for real.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: ichMael
Date: 18 Apr 10 - 11:40 PM

If you want laughable, just go to Youtube and witness how cops invoke the PATRIOT Act when they're making arrests. Or, it's not laughable, it's sad. And Shuler...well, he's a bad one. I'm thinking of making him my project this week. The Democratic Party is harboring a domestic terrorist.

But let's see what constructive criticism has been posted here since yesterday.

Are you a purblind eedjit? Or just the normal sort?

Never really considered that one.

his heroes are a bunch of redneck racists Amos, probably because he's one of them.

Ah, yes. Invoking skin color in a slur and then claiming moral high ground on the subject of racism. There's another one around here who does that.

Bring yer dumbass self down her to Page County... Bring it on, asshole!!! ... Yeah, bring yer wimpy, cowardly ass on down... Square business, jerko!!! ... unlike you, am am transparent... You won't have any thouble finding me... ask anyone where "Sidewalk Bib" lives... bring yer cowardly self up here... I'll be waiting on yer liein', cowardly, dumbass self, ya hear???

Hm. Speak of the devil. Old Sidewalk Bib himself. He says he's transparent but "you wont have any trouble finding me." That's a puzzler.

they're all stupid Yanks

Lives under a queen. Nuff said.

drooling, phlegmatic troll.

I'm not phlegmatic.

It grieves me to see such name calling here. We all know it is forbidden

lol. That's rich. Tell that to Streetwalker Bib.

The only problem is that the "poster" is also a cyber-stalker who has stalked me from another website and has some very serious obsessive things going on in regards to me???

lol. Speak of the devil again. So, what, I'm supposed to be a stalker? lol. Believe me, I don't even read your posts normally. I'm only reading the ones in line here out of a spirit of all-inclusiveness. But you are pretty interesting because you show the kind of mental deterioration that so many Democrats are displaying right now. Your guy hasn't ended the wars, he's giving even MORE U.S. tax money to privately-owned foreign banks, he DOUBLED funding for the murder of American children, and so on and so on and so on. And it's driving you people nuts. And that's the way Obama-nosis wants you...so whacked out that you'll do anything to defend the good name(s) of der fuhrer.

I had some doubts about whether I should pursue the Shuler thing this week or pick up something else, but all these words of encouragement tell me Shuler's the way to go.

Thanks for the input.


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Subject: RE: BS: Democratic Party Terrorist Organization?
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Apr 10 - 11:02 PM

". Shuler broke a law and endangered life while attempting to influence government policy."

laughable analysis. Figgers, considering the source.


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