Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:18 PM

That's just it. I don't. I pee five time a night. I am happy when I also get out of bed five times a night.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Martin gibson
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:12 PM

At your age, how do you manage to get your pants down in time?

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:00 PM

I have hit the age where I automatically pee when I sit down. I stand lots.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 03:57 PM

I decided to revist this thread and yes, it really does suck. the one post I did prior to this one got bleeped because it obviously offended someone for being vulgar. funny thing, I can't remember what I posted. But I really think that only just a couple get offended and the rest laugh pretty hard.

this is the usual double standard here, where judgements, many of them poor are made on what is and what is not in bad taste. I believe some moderators really need to grow some skin.

Do you some of you male moderators (are there any female clones?) sit down when you pee?

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 02:06 PM

"Subject: BS: Wanker's Register
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 02:15 AM

I see we have a Lurker's Register so why not a Wanker's Register for self-confessed wankers?

I think that may have 'bashed the Bishop' myself once when I was younger - but I did not inhale................."

Which confirms our deepest suspicions!
G..

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 01:31 PM

Subject: RE: Affected by The Licensing Act 2003
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 12:52 PM

Shouldn't the title of this thread have (England) added to it??
G..

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Epona
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 09:29 AM

I needed something to make me laugh this morning, and this thread is it! Thanks a million!

E

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 06:31 AM

Shambles-=you are a moany old fart, somebody should take your computer off you, and put you in a home.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:39 PM

Yet some people still hang around and confound medical science!
G ☻

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:05 PM

Terminal anything tends to be pretty fatal.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 11:58 AM

Terminal stupidity can be.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 11:52 AM

Is terminal smugness fatal?
G. ☻

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 11:17 AM

No need for me to panic then - when you are around....*Smiles*

Happy Christams Mick

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 08:14 AM

Shambles, this shows you for what you are. I know you are very busy cryin' and complainin'. Perhaps that explains why you left off the third quote. Let me help you out. Here it is:

Subject: RE: R.I.P. MUDCAT
From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 10:34 PM

Nice try, but you won't suck me into this one. Get your pitiful need for argument somewhere else.

Folks, don't feed this one. He gets so panicky when people don't respond.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 07:03 AM

It does say "No need to reply" but then, "There's none so blind as those that will not see".
G

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 06:42 AM

See the first post in this thread.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 05:10 AM

The noun upkeep has 2 meanings:

Meaning #1: activity involved in maintaining something in good working order
Synonyms: care, maintenance

Meaning #2: the act of sustaining
Synonyms: sustenance, sustentation, sustainment, maintenance.

Read learn, and inwardly digest!

G.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 02:16 AM

Contributions, as I have used it, was not meant to solely indicate financial support. I would hope it was evident in my post.

Perhaps it was the use of the word 'upkeep' in the first post may lead many of us to think that it was 'evident' that it was the provision of financial support that was being referred to?

And felt by the poster to now entitle them and certain other posters to pass judgement upon and to call their fellow posters names?

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 11:35 AM

Presumably Shambles has some reason for posting those last quotes from Big Mick. I'd hope that was to indicate he agreed with what Mick was saying, which seems eminently sensible...

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 02:02 AM

Subject: RE: R.I.P. MUDCAT
From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 06:03 PM

The point is a valid one. Folks that have never offered anything but criticism also never contribute to the upkeep of this site in any way.

Mick

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Subject: RE: R.I.P. MUDCAT
From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 11:03 AM

Contributions, as I have used it, was not meant to solely indicate financial support. I would hope it was evident in my post. Everyone contributes in one way or another. If your only contribution is criticism, a know it all attitude, or personal attacks, you are not worth much here. I know many of our most valuable contributors have never donated a dime. But the place wouldn't be the same without them. I think that is spirit of it.

Mick

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 05:14 PM

A life isn't just for Christmas. A life is for life.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 04:40 PM

If we all chip in, can we get him a life for Christmas?

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 02:31 PM

I saw that this thread had been reincarnated, and I thought, 'Bet it was Roger revived it'
G.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 01:58 PM

Anything by Shambles.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 01:53 PM

Subject: RE: R.I.P. MUDCAT
From: Jeri - PM
Date: 12 Dec 05 - 11:34 AM

Mooh, I suppose it might be a better place if we all quit reacting to our favorite irritants, whether they're anonymous guests or people slagging anonymous guests, whether they're Mudcat's problems or people commenting on Mudcat's problems, or somebody who's just commenting on All of the Above, as I'm wont to do on occasion. It's just that the threads that seem to inspire the most passion and the greatest number of posts are ones that piss us off. Me too, and I really don't like it when I get caught up in that game. Maybe it was always this way and I never paid much attention to it. I think RiB is right in saying Mudcat's changed. I wouldn't expect it not to. I miss some of what got lost in the process, and I could do without some of what got added, but it is what it is.

It's nice though, the Mudcat seems to have gotten out of the morgue and back into the hospital.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 02:31 AM

http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode03.htm#5

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: BaldEagle2
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:48 PM

Ee - by gum!

I treks off for a few weeks doing thingy-wotsits elsewhere, and when I get back I find that our poor Shambles is yet once more at the middle of another hell-fire controversy : a controversy of which not one bit has in any way been caused by anything he has said, done or written.

Sheesh!   Why can't you all leave the poor man alone?

Dragnabbit!   Now I shall have to call a meeting of the DKSS a.s.a.p. and get some help for our poor beleaguered champion of freedom of speech.

Don't worry Shambles, we members of the Dirty Knives Secret Society are on your side.

(er ... you couldn't possibly spare a few seconds of your extemely precious time to say a few words of encouragement to the members of the DKSS, could you, Shambles old chap?   - we are very disappointed that you never turn up to any of our secret meetings ....)

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:14 PM

Irony lives.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:56 PM

The following less noteworthy Mudcat quotation and the inserted editing comment should make anyone smile......... Well that is anyone with a sense of humour.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 06:43 PM

This should prove to you the appropriate way to deal with this person. Ignore him, and he will refresh very old threads to get attention. It proves what I have always said. He is a classic troll. This is his bait. Please don't take it. He will now launch into lengthy diatribe and a spate of cut and paste out of context quotes. Please don't feed him.

It is very tempting to delete all posts back to Roger's 'refresh', but that would only feed his paranoia. Another JC

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:48 PM

Obsession is nine points of the law.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:43 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Wolfgang - PM
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 05:50 AM

Is it fuck-as-hit-piss or
fuck-a-shit-piss?

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:58 AM

However, "like" should not be taken to mean "the same as". So a verbose hypocrite should not be confused with an asshole - my point further up.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:56 AM

Verbosity is like flatulence. They both stink.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:34 AM

Subject: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Xanadu - PM
Date: 30 Mar 05 - 06:55 AM

I have watched the "Censorship on Mudcat" thread with dismay, as more and more attacks were made at Roger (Shambles) and the main issue became clouded.

In an attempt to get back to the basics, I am starting this thread with a suggestion for how and when to apply censorship on this forum, using elements of "constitutions" of other forums I attend.

Whatever the outcome of this discussion, it need not be applied to Mudcat; that is the prerogative of Max as the forum owner. But at least we can come to some agreement on the direction censorship could take.

Here are a few simple rules:

1. Monitoring (and censorship) of threads can be delegated to volunteers, who should be NAMED and announced and should always sign with their Mudcat handle in order to censor or modify or comment on a posting.

2. Ideally such monitors (or "clones" as they are often referred to) should only hold the position for a maximum term of 1 year.

3. The reasoning for any thread closure or post deletion should be announced publicly as a separate thread. This will allow discussion of the reasoning to take place without cluttering the original thread.

4. Legitimate reasons for post deletion can only be:
   a) potentially libellous statements
   b) overtly racist remarks

5. Legitimate reasons for amending a post can only be:
   a) to delete personal information given in a post
   b) to delete web links to pornographic or racist sites

That's it. What do you think?

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:25 AM

By the way, Roger, of course you are allowed to move on. I for one wish you would, too.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:22 AM

Oh nooo, please Roger, don't, it hurts to laugh so much. Seeking to counterattack only to prove my point - bless you! But don't bust a vessel now...

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 06:53 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_standard

The following extract from the above.

There is a subtle distinction to be made between double standards and hypocricy. The latter implies the acceptance of a single standard, but the disregard of it in practice. A man who believes that he has a right to have extra-marital affairs but his wife does not holds a double standard. A man who condemns all adultery while maintaining a mistress is a hypocrite.


Subject: RE: In the UK......? (thread title change complain
From: El Greko - PM
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 03:48 PM

Joe,

Shambles is just a hypocrite. Don't elevate him to asshole status. Assholes have their uses.

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El Greko also says-

When someone is so focused on him/herself and his/her causes to the exclusion of normal civility; when someone opens numerous new threads under false titles to make his/her points; when someone ignores all advice and instead clutters up and spoils threads; when that same someone wages war on others simply for disagreeing with him/her; then it is time to pull the plug on such a waste of time and space.

Good job I didn't mention the dirty knife

All posters have the choice to respond or ignore what is posted. Is it helpful to encourage the idea that they have some choice over what others choose to post or some right to judge the contributions of others?

But what a short memory some posters appear to have? For what judgement would El Greko make of a poster who can go to the lengths of inventing a whole new Mudcat identity to start a thread in which this new identity can argue with themselves and others?

Mudcat censorship – a proposal

What all of these abusive personal attacks and public judgements simply boil down to – is that a poster holds, expresses and evidences a view that does not appear to be a popular one. And a less than positive response to this seems to be encouraged or tolerated by some posters who should perhaps know better. Perhaps it will be finally accepted that if any view is politely worded – such a view has every right to appear and be discussed civilly on our forum by those who wish to? And those who do not wish to – are perfectly free to ignore any view they wish?

When this is finally accepted – perhaps those who are prepared to can be allowed to move on and be permitted to discuss all the issues involved in the selective imposed censorship on our forum – without all of the personally motivated and hysterical static?

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 11:49 PM

I will resist the way this thread has strayed from its title, and instead offer a quotation.

In response to a fellow folkie from the US's request for advice on where to find music, clubs and sessions during a future visit to the UK:

"Subject: RE: English folk clubs & pub singing
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 06:48 AM

Perhaps you should write to The Department Of Culture, Media and Sport
and ask them?

http://www.culture.gov.uk/global/press_notices/archive_2005/dcms166_05.htm?month=November&properties=archive%5F2005%2C%2Fglobal%2Fpress%5Fnotices%2F%2C

I am perfectly serious, it would be useful for them to receive such a request and interesting to read their reply."

When someone is so focused on him/herself and his/her causes to the exclusion of normal civility; when someone opens numerous new threads under false titles to make his/her points; when someone ignores all advice and instead clutters up and spoils threads; when that same someone wages war on others simply for disagreeing with him/her; then it is time to pull the plug on such a waste of time and space.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 08:17 AM

I don't recall any instance of Joe Offer posting anonymously, and your constant, and tedious, references to anonymous fellow posters do amount to personal attacks, whether you know their names or not.

You might at least regain some credibility if you referred to them as moderators, which is exactly what they are.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 06:39 AM

I fear that it is our anonymous volunteer fellow posters who are doing most of the nose-punching.

For even if I wished to indulge in nose punching - it is difficult to do to anonymous people who are not prepared to stand by their judgements and actions.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 06:17 AM

In light of your final comment, now might be a good time to stop punching Joe and the Clones on the nose, don't you think?

Don T.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 06:06 AM

The question "How would you feel if someone punched you on the nose"? can have very different responses depending upon what has happened before.

To the academic perhaps? The pain of the victim is still pain - even if the pain of being punched on the nose was not judged as bad as having one's leg cut-off - and even if some others (not feeling the pain) judged that the victim had somehow deserved such treatment. The victim is hardly likely to agree that they desevered such treatment - especially if they had never indulged in nose-punching.

But would this make the act of punching anyone on the nose any less desirable an action for so-called civilised and educated people to indulge in? Is it really an act that should be encouraged because some people may judge that others may have done something to deserve a punch on the nose?

Is such confused thinking going to result in more nose punching or less? How are those who are not judged to have deserved such treatment to be protected from also being punched on the nose? How can you ever judge another for nose punching - if you indulge in such things yourself, ever condone or find excuses for it?

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:58 AM

Oh wad some power the gift tae gie us

To see ourselves as others see us

It wad frae mony a blunder free us

An foolish notion

What airs in dress and gait wad leave us

An e'en devotion
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Robert Burns.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


G.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Janie
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:56 AM

'I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.'

The Nose Knows
That no nose
Can blow a blow
That blows a nose
Like the Nose' nose blows

Relevant? Nice? Not nice? Noteworthy? Quotable? Or merely quoted?

I am a Worthy police. I deem this thread less worthy.

I am bored and avoiding doing patient notes.

Goodbye.

xxoo,

Janie

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Wolfgang
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:49 AM

Shambles,

once more you are arguing in complete disregard of context.
Take Ebbie, for example. If someone would call her all these names I would doubt their judgement for Ebbie has posted nothing that could be characterised with any of Jock's colourful expressions. You, however, have worked very hard to be awarded this characterisation.

The question "How would you feel if someone punched you on the nose"? can have very different responses depending upon what has happened before.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Wolfgang
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:26 AM

What a devilish wish (smile).

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:56 PM

O would some power the giftie gie us to see ourselves as others see us...

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:32 PM

I'm not sure where I fall in the nice/not nice rankings and it doesn't really matter to me, other than I know where I want the preponderance.. I think we all are capable of falling into and out of either or both of those categories. Including you, Roger. My guess is that, in person, you are a good host and with a lot of different interests. I would love to see your file of songs you have written and discuss their content and hear you sing some of them. You write good songs.

The problem comes about when you mount your hobbyhorse and sit down at your computer. Incidentally, has your pony recently had offspring? Say it isn't so.

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:13 PM

I fear the drive on our forum that has seen – what posters say – be overridden by who is saying it, has now reached a critical level.

Jerry I admit that I am truly terrible person and beyond all help and that Azizi is a truly wonderful one. But what has that got to do with the points that posters make and the treatment they receive?

If posters are not considered (by you) to be a truly wonderful person does that now mean that is acceptable for others to mount abusive personal attacks upon them?

Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: artbrooks
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 09:26 AM

McGrath, your point on grammatical correctness is well taken, but I think that it would scan better were some of the words hyphenated; e.g., self-obsessed rather than self obsessed. Just IMHO, of course.