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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe Date: 04 Nov 10 - 11:30 AM However boring AGMs may be, they are a breath of fresh air compared with threads about train timetables, fer Chrissake... Personally I would rather my subs were spent on the library, educational projects, outreach work etc rather than subsidised jollies for delegates. As folks have pointed out, there is already plenty going on in Sheffield for delegates to get their teeth into. I live in Manchester so I don't personally benefit from Cecil Sharp House. I pay my subs to help support the work the society does, rather than for what it gives me - though I do appreciate the magazines. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 04 Nov 10 - 09:03 AM Malcolm, I clearly remember playing cricket against you[ i am not a good cricketer, either] at whitby festival, and when you caught and bowled me, you, shouting, fuck off you bloody wanker. cricket is supposed to be a game not an excuse to be have like an ill mannered yob. That is the sort of behaviour , i dont expect to receive from anyone or particularly someone organising a festival. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 04 Nov 10 - 08:28 AM Malcolm, I remember well how I was treated by Graham Binless your predecessor, who was a gentleman and a decent bloke, and treated his artists with respect . In fairness to yourself you ran Whitby in a well organised fashion. I gave details of train times, wherever you gleaned your facts they dont correspond with the train times provided by train companies, check out your facts again. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 03 Nov 10 - 09:13 PM Oh Dear(est) Dickie Where are you getting all these fantasies about things like my wanting to join the higher echelons of the society? I am retired and loving every minute of it - you should try it sometime. But I am not short of interesting things to do and see thank you - and yes I'm very well at the moment. I have never professed to be anything other than an average but enthusiastic and determined cricketer but I still managed to have my moments and never lacked for a game, so again I know not where that particular bile on your part originates - perhaps its just part of your make-up. My train times were gleaned from the National Rail Journey Planner which I use quite extensively, but then I suppose by your lights they will not have a clue either - oh dear, dear. Any old how must close now as we have an early start in the morning, off to Clare for the weekend plus other things Irish. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Folknacious Date: 03 Nov 10 - 08:27 PM ????? Lost me there . . . Slow Tradgrind is an anagram of Rod Stradling. Not many people know that. If the EFDSS are living in a fantasy world, I rather like it. I was up in London last weekend so I was able to go to the House for a very excellent evening with Shirley Collins, Alasdair Roberts, the Belles Of London City and Trembling Bells, the first three of which I enjoyed a lot so I was well pleased. It appeared to be sold out. I noticed it got a very good review in the Guardian a few days later, which can only do good on a national level (unless you believe that all Guardian readers live in Camden as well). Surely on that evidence a sane person would have to admit that they must be doing something right. A. Berk |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 03 Nov 10 - 07:17 PM malcolm , if you can be bothered to read , i apologised for that. my teeth are fine, which is clearly not the case with your brain. you have your facts wrong about travelling times to sheffield by train. if you have ambitions to get a high position in the EFDSS, getting a clear grip of facts is essential. there are clearly people in the higher echelons of the EFDSS WHO COULD NOT ORGANISE A PISS UP IN A BREWERY. Malcolm, I witnessed your organisation of Whitby festival, and while I have some criticisms of you, [your a mediocre cricketer] and you seem to enjoy pretending to be the archtypical Yorkshireman " Hear all, see all, say nowt, tak' all, keep all, gie nowt, and if tha ever does owt for nowt do it for thysen" however,you did manage to organise Whitby festival for many years in a very competent fashion, I think you would do a better job in the EFDSS than the present management ... but dont make their mistake of living in a fantasy world. Thomas Gradgrind is a utilitarian who is the founder of the educational system in Coketown. "Eminently practical" is Gradgrind's recurring description throughout the novel, and practicality is something he zealously aspires to. He represents the stringency of Fact, statistics and other materialistic pursuits. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 03 Nov 10 - 06:04 PM Dick Dearie - It was you calling me Sunshine - just thought as you were being nice I would be nice back! How is the tooth by the way? |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Matthew Edwards Date: 03 Nov 10 - 09:50 AM In my experience the AGMs of any organisation are more to be endured than enjoyed; I can rarely hear the speakers clearly, nor understand the technicalities behind the resolutions. It ought to be an opportunity for the Society to do some PR activity, but I can't even find a mention of the meeting on the EFDSS website. Will there be any books or CDs on display or for sale? So, to return to Mike's original question, is there anything else going on, officially or unofficially, to make the trip to Sheffield worthwhile? If I were to come, and on the whole I'd rather be in Dublin but can't get away for the whole weekend, is there any singing or music going on anywhere nearby on the Saturday evening? Matthew |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 03 Nov 10 - 07:57 AM and is the AGM on a sunday? no its bloddy not, its on a saturday at 2 pm look ive provided details of train services its quicker to get to sheffield from edinburgh than it is to get to london. i am not fraught , but i get fed up with people like jack making incorrect statements , his claims are not true, go and check out rail time tables you will see i am right. malcolm whats all this dearie crap ,you are not having a change of sex are you? |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST Date: 03 Nov 10 - 05:39 AM Transport in the UK anywhere on a Sunday is fraught with difficulties, whether by road or rail. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:45 PM Just this once I agrre with Campin' Jack. Dick Dearie - you're getting awfully fraught - are you having trouble with your tooth? |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Jack Campin Date: 02 Nov 10 - 08:28 PM When I wanted to go there was no train. Engineering works near Newcastle. The best option was bus all the way. No thanks when I was recovering from an angioplasty. I've no idea how often that sort of disruption happens but the north of England is not noted for reliable train service. The point is: when people are coming from a long way, you'd better make it worth their while. And just sitting in a meeting isn't enough of an attraction for most. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 02 Nov 10 - 06:04 PM Outward Inward Edinburgh to London Kings Cross Tue, 2 November 2010 London Kings Cross to Edinburgh Thu, 4 November 2010 Depart Arrive Duration Changes 14:08 19:12 05:04 1 Details 15:00 19:19 04:19 0 Details 15:07 20:19 05:12 1 Details 16:00 20:44 04:44 0 Details |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 02 Nov 10 - 06:03 PM Outward Edinburgh to Sheffield Thu, 4 November 2010 Depart Arrive Duration Changes 11:08 14:51 03:43 0 Details 12:00 15:20 03:20 1 Details 12:05 15:51 03:46 0 Details 12:30 |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 02 Nov 10 - 05:55 PM "For that matter, I can get to Istanbul quicker than Sheffield." by train?who is this berk, the average train journey from edinburgh to derby is four and a quarter hours generally without a change,the average train journey from edinburgh to london takes 4 hours forty five minutes. edinburgh to sheffield takes 3 hours 40 minutes, 3 hours 15 minutes, or 3 hours 43 minutes at 10 08 am without a change. jack you just dont know what you are talking about |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST Date: 02 Nov 10 - 02:29 PM Local branches tended to be dance clubs that didn't appeal to a wide audience so people started up their own clubs and local organizations. I value the Libray and Journal and ED&S mag. Barry Callaghan's book and CDs and Bismark's CD were very helpful as were Malcolm' edition(s). Where is the Bert Lloyd book I paid up front for ages ago?!
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Raymond Greenoaken Date: 02 Nov 10 - 01:53 PM As a native of Haltwhistle, I can confirm that everything Suibhne says about the town is absolutely correct. I'd be interested to know what the Significant Folk Associations might be, however. As for Haltwhistle's claim to be the Centre of Britain, well, I was not consulted in this. But if you believe the astonishing set of statistics amassed in support of this claim and published on a sign in Haltwhistle Market Place, you'll probably also believe that the exact dimensions of the heavenly bodies are encoded in The Book Of Revelations. In fact, the EXACT centre of Britain is a miscroscopic black hole located three quarters of a mile SSW of Haltwhistle Market Place, which often sucks in backpackers and passing woodland creatures. I myself have been sucked in several times. (The trick of getting out again is something one inevitably learns as part of a Haltwhistle Boyhood.) Another of the town's claims on posterity: my great uncle Arthur Thompson was, in his later years, known as the Fattest Man in the North of England. Were he alive today, he's be one of the few people visible on Google Earth. I could go on... By the by, I now live in Sheffield, so I'm obviously attracted to the centres of things. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Stu Date: 02 Nov 10 - 05:33 AM "The Society has been getting it wrong for an awful long time now but at least it is still doing a fair bit of good work - or is it?" Who knows? From where I'm sitting typing this, on the edge of the Peak District south of Manchester the EFDSS is utterly irrelevant. We have a good local session scene and some excellent musicians, and many here are out there doing what the EFDSS is there to encourage and represent. I love the idea of an archive the like of which exists in CSH, and which is of national importance. However, in real terms the continuation of the tradition is happening on the ground out in the provinces, the cities, towns, shires and hundreds and the existence of a society in London which is expensive to visit for those of us outside the M25 doesn't really matter in real terms. Is there a branch in Manchester? |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Date: 02 Nov 10 - 05:30 AM the River South Tyne runs through the town Again, here I fear Haltwhistle is being misrepresented somewhat as the town lies entirely to the north of the river - likewise both the A69 and the railway line from which many assume (wrongly as it happens) that its name derives. A Google Maps search will verify this claim, and also that of the town as being The Centre of Britain. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Jack Campin Date: 02 Nov 10 - 05:28 AM The public transport issue is pretty serious if you're coming from north of Sheffield. I was keen to go to the Malcolm Douglas memorial ceilidh band event last year, and gave up when I realized how long it was going to take (the railway line was closed for repairs that weekend and I'd have had to do the whole trip on buses). From anywhere in Scotland, London is far more accessible. For that matter, I can get to Istanbul quicker than Sheffield. Given that this is going to be an overnighter for most people outside London, it certainly makes sense to organize some sort of social/musical event to tie in with it. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST Date: 02 Nov 10 - 04:26 AM You could always ask EFDSS which is making more of a contribution to the society's financial viability,concert ticket sales or membership subscriptions. I can tell you it is membership. My comparison with King's Place was not altogether fatuous. My point is that it is a fit-for-purpose venue with great facilities, and it is committed to promoting and presenting a range of folk musicians who are on tour as well as special events. One could argue that Cecil Sharp House is not particularly fit for purpose as a venue for presenting concerts, and maybe suggest that an organisation like EFDSS should not simply be replicating what lots of other venues in London already do, but instead focus a bit more on its national remit (as defined by the Arts Council as a condition of its grant) of being the national folk arts development organisation for the UK. Where is it's national education strategy, for example? How is it being delivered? I'm much more interested in that than in subsidising another London concert venue. I already do that through my taxes. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Howard Jones Date: 02 Nov 10 - 03:51 AM "it is still doing a fair bit of good work - or is it? Debate and discuss." We debated this very point quite recently. In a nutshell, there is a feeling that the good work it is doing is largely confined to CSH and its immediate environs. If the Society is indeed doing more in the regions it is doing a poor job of publicising it. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 01 Nov 10 - 10:58 PM Glad we have established where Haltwhistle is - and the River South Tyne runs through the town so one must suppose it may be deemed to be on Tyneside! This is getting really almost interesting now - keep it up folks. I would respectfully suggest that EFDSS is a far safer pair of hands for traditional folk music that some of the other oligarchies that have claimed to represent the genre in recent years. The Society has been getting it wrong for an awful long time now but at least it is still doing a fair bit of good work - or is it? Debate and discuss. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,folkandroots Date: 01 Nov 10 - 09:24 PM Not being a member of the EFDSS I wouldn't really want to get involved in this conversation but as someone who does go to both the Kings Place Arts Centre and CSH Ruth's comparison of the two is way off the mark, I would say however that Folkn's assessment of the former is largely true (but from its web site it appears to be a fairly pretentious glossy "arts" venue for the wealthy - unfortunately Id say is also the case of most arts centres). I'd also suspect that relatively few residents of Camden actually make regular use of CSH as it happens and no doubt any actual members of the EFDSS here could correct me but the resources located within are used by far more than just the local residents be that of Camden or Greater London. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST Date: 01 Nov 10 - 09:16 PM Sheffield: sounds like you've got a great scene. Why do you need any more validation? I speak for no-one apart from myself, but I guess the answer would be - "we would like to share our top class scene in Sheffield with the members of the EFDSS". |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Folknacious Date: 01 Nov 10 - 08:53 PM I think you are deliberately missing the point. CSH can be London's Folk Centre and a National centre at the same time. Why on earth not? What's the evidence that it's only used by Camden residents? And even if they were the majority users, surely it would be their ticket money subsidising the organisation's national role rather than the other way round? I don't live in London so I haven't been to King's Place, but from its web site it appears to be a fairly pretentious glossy "arts" venue for the wealthy, judging by ticket prices. I couldn't see that it has a library housing nationally important folk song collections, for example, or the range of classes and workshops that CSH holds. Presumably your idea of what constitutes a folk centre is different to mine. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Ruth Archer Date: 01 Nov 10 - 07:10 PM "I can't think of another single establishment in the city which contains and promotes so much English folk music, song, dance and customs." Google King's Place. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 01 Nov 10 - 06:51 PM Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Folknacious - PM Date: 01 Nov 10 - 06:32 PM Why would you get angry at CSH being called London's Folk Centre, among the many other roles it fulfills nationally? I don't go into London that much, but I can't think of another single establishment in the city which contains and promotes so much English folk music, song, dance and customs. Rather CSH than some singer songwriter venue any day. If you had a place like that in Sheffield, would you complain about it being called Sheffield's Folk Centre? Sorry, I don't follow your logic - seems like knee-jerk London hating to me. it doesnt fulfill it nationally, it is absolutely disgraceful that the only organisation that gives national tuition is comhaltas. I have a sense of humour alright, but watching EFDSS self destruct and make stupid decisions, is not what i call funny. I repeat only EFDSS could be daft enough to organise an agm without involving local folk musicans to provide music. who are these berks. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Paul Davenport Date: 01 Nov 10 - 06:49 PM If I had a National centre for anything in any city I would object to its being made into a parochial centre. I don't pay my membership to support the Camden locals having their own clubhouse! I would feel the same regardless of its location. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Howard Jones Date: 01 Nov 10 - 06:48 PM Isn't it supposed to be the national folk centre? |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Folknacious Date: 01 Nov 10 - 06:32 PM Why would you get angry at CSH being called London's Folk Centre, among the many other roles it fulfills nationally? I don't go into London that much, but I can't think of another single establishment in the city which contains and promotes so much English folk music, song, dance and customs. Rather CSH than some singer songwriter venue any day. If you had a place like that in Sheffield, would you complain about it being called Sheffield's Folk Centre? Sorry, I don't follow your logic - seems like knee-jerk London hating to me. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Paul Davenport Date: 01 Nov 10 - 06:21 PM Sorry Folknacious. that wasn't what I meant at all. God knows loads of people exercise their right to vote and still get governance by ideology instead of by humanity. I'm talking about actually going and speaking… there isn't anything on the voting form which allows me to express my anger at Cecil Sharp House being re-badged as London's Folk Centre for example so I'll have to go and tell the perpetrators in person. That kind of voice. Read the voting form again, 'council recommends that you support this motion' … really? |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:33 PM I thought it was Haltwhistle in the Lake District... Just to point out that Haltwhistle isn't in the Lake District, but is, in fact in Northumberland. Along with Allendale it does claim to be the centre of Great Britain, and is also (reportedly, circa 1983) the Devil worshipping capital of the UK and has also very Signifiant Folk Associations. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Folknacious Date: 01 Nov 10 - 04:50 PM Paul D: actually, I voted already. On line. After carefully reading all the stuff I was sent. Basic right therefore well exercised. Schweik: get a sense of humour, old son. Do we really have to put rows of smileys or exclamation marks to let every dimwit know that a remark is tongue in cheek? Sheffield: sounds like you've got a great scene. Why do you need any more validation? |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Paul Davenport Date: 01 Nov 10 - 03:52 PM It sometimes strikes me that if you didn't have the society, someone would rapidly invent it. They would then be the perceived voice of folk music as far as the 'establishment' was concerned. Actually, EFDSS doesn't need your money. They have managed to become a funded organisation via the Arts Council. This means that when the great and the good want to know about folk music and dance they aren't going to come to 'Folknacious', or me, or any other person who has expressed an interest. They don't actually know that we exist, so, when they are really desperate they go to good old EFDSS. And guess what Folknacious? Despite them taking your money each year, they do't express your viewpoint either. You haven't got a voice. Why? Because you don't exercise your basic right to have a voice! |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 01 Nov 10 - 03:33 PM my apologies folknacious, if my sentiments are a bit strong, having a bad day, some idiot tried to wreck my car, by doing a 3 point turn on a main road. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 01 Nov 10 - 03:26 PM I remember Martin Carthy,many years ago at Whitby, commenting on a particular performer ,not, me , who is this berk. an apt comment for the previous poster. for f####,sake this folknacious, he wonT got to the agm if there is nice music attached, he wont dance or sit in an audience at a ceilidh full of the sort of people who go to AGMS. the sort of people who go to AGMS are not a different breed of people, they are people, the same as any other people with vastly differing opinions,not to be stereotyped by someperson who thinksby paying an annual fee he has done his bit. to paraphrase Carthy, who is this berk |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Folknacious Date: 01 Nov 10 - 02:18 PM I don't pay my EFDSS subscription for what I can get out of it - other than quite a good magazine - but because I think it deserves supporting. As well as housing the library, which makes sense being in the capital, it seems to be doing very much better as a PR for our music on a national level than in the past. I see the EFDSS as a central lighthouse, catalyst and hub, I don't expect it to send up offshoots everywhere. It has a building, it gets used - what's wrong with that? Would I go to the AGM if it had some nice music attached? Almost certainly not. Would I want to sit in an audience or dance in a ceilidh full of the sort of people who go to AGMs? Definitely not! |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Folkiedave Date: 01 Nov 10 - 01:20 PM I was in it for many years - convinced that I had to be in it to change it. I left convinced I was wrong. I was recruited back into it by the very persuasive tongue of one of the major players in the society who convinced me I ought to be in - if only to get the magazine which he convinced me was excellent in content and style. I have done an article for said magazine and had the honour of reviewing some records for it. At the moment I am a bit ambivalent. It seems to have gone London-centric perhaps "again" even, and the weekend it has its AGM in Sheffield I shall be in Dublin. Bugger. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Ruth Archer Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:54 AM But it might just convince those in the regions who are *already members* that they ought to renew their subscription for next year. That's providing the Board and the Executive actually want to maintain a membership organisation, of course - but at the moment, given the amount of revenue represented by the membership, and given the precarious state of ACE and other arts subsidy, members' subscriptions must be a pretty precious resource that lots of other arts organisations would give their eye teeth for. My reasons for letting my membership lapse were, to be frank, a simple matter of geography. As someone who lives in Lincolnshire, there isn't a lot of benefit in membership for me, and I don't see much evidence of EFDSS impact in the midlands (or anywhere outside of Camden) - so whty do I want to pay my money to subsidise an already over-subsidised and very crowded London arts scene? If I want to go to an event at CSH, I can shlep down to London and pay my money like anyone else - but there are very few performances that take place there that I can't see closer to home, in venues that are far more comfortable and fit for purpose as performance spaces, so why bother? |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: John MacKenzie Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:41 AM I can't make up my mind which are worse. The self appointed guardians of our culture, or the minority elected guardians of our constitution, that in the House of Commons do dwell. All they both seem to do is snipe at each other, and insist that THEIR way, is right. In the meantime, fuck all changes! |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Howard Jones Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:39 AM The idea was to reflect an organisation that has an engagement with its regional membership and not all about London. It will be interesting to see how successful this is. However I do think that by not having any events associated with the AGM the EFDSS has missed an opportunity to engage with those in the regions who are not currently members and who need to be persuaded that it is "not all about London" if they are to join. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:17 AM And the Boardwalk has just been voted 4th most Iconic Venue in the world by NME. And Gav Davenport's also on this Tuesday. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Ruth Archer Date: 01 Nov 10 - 04:09 AM I thought it was Haltwhistle in the Lake District... In any case, I'm not sure that the point of the exercise was to have the meeting in the most geographically central place, or the place that is most accessible by public transport. The idea was to reflect an organisation that has an engagement with its regional membership and not all about London. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 31 Oct 10 - 10:37 PM Well Dick Dearie Are you thinking of relocating to Derby or just applying for the job of special ambassador not in residence? Takes three hours on the train from Selby, I can drive it in less than half that! I retired from playing cricket shortly before my 65th birthday, having derived great pleasure from playing the game at school and local club level for over 50 years. I had the tremendous delight to join my son and grandson (then 13) in a club game where we all did our bit, especially my grandson who is easily the best cricketer the Storeys' have produced to date. Google "Jack Storey, cricket" for more. Also don't forget - the older we get, the better we were! Oh and while I remember - somewhere on Tyneside claims to be "The Centre of Britain"!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 31 Oct 10 - 01:49 PM Derby's central location and former importance as a 'railway town' have made it an important node of the rail network. First opened in 1844, it was at the time one of the largest in the country and was unusual for being shared by more than one company. Until recently, major carriage and locomotive workshops as well as the Research Division in the Railway Technical Centre were housed there. The station is an interchange point between the Midland Main Line from London St Pancras to Leeds and long-distance services on the Cross-Country route from Aberdeen through Birmingham New Street to Penzance or Bournemouth (the zero milepost on the latter route is at the south end of platform 1). Until the mid twentieth century, the station was also served by through trains from Manchester and Glasgow to London. It is still a busy station, the section to Sheffield having the highest train frequency (passenger and freight) of any line in the East Midlands.[citation needed] Local services from Nottingham to Matlock along the Derwent Valley Line serve the station as well as local and semi-fast services to, Stoke-on-Trent, Crewe, Birmingham and Cardiff Central. Derby station today has six platforms (all but Platform 5 are through platforms), connected by a footbridge, used as an exit to Pride Park and a car park. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Folkiedave Date: 31 Oct 10 - 12:28 PM I forgot to mention Sheffield is also the home of Henderson's Relish. You can't get more folky than that. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: Folkiedave Date: 31 Oct 10 - 12:03 PM Most London trains from Brighton are about 1 hour. It is 53 miles approx. The standard train time from Sheffield - London is 2 hours 7 minutes for 150 miles. Our trains our well over twice as fast. Of course if you want to give really daft examples, it is a further 1 hour 25 minutes to Lille in France, so Sheffield is 3.5 hours from Lille and I'd call that excellent transport links. One change of train and no change of station. To people in Sheffield Maltby is in the Sheffield area - indeed I include the "Rock at Maltby" in my folk club listings each week on my radio show. A list of artistes appearing in the Sheffield area this forthcoming week starting tonight: Roy Bailey, Inge Thomson, Fraser Fifield, Martin Green, Will Pound, Simon Care, Fay Hield, O'Hooley and Heidi Tidow, Skyhook, Harvey Andrews, Cockersdale and the McCalmans. That is just the nationally known ones. And linking the two things together we have a once a month Folk Train. Now I call THAT public transport!! |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: The Sandman Date: 31 Oct 10 - 09:55 AM hows the cricket, Malcolm, bowled any maiden overs lately. |
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Subject: RE: EFDSS AGM , Wassup? From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 30 Oct 10 - 07:50 PM Oh and thanks to those who saved me having to do a search for a listing of Sheffield AREA things. Much appreciated. |
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