trivia

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 01:03 PM

You playing teacher's pet, Mark? The best way to get an "A" is to quote Perfesser Fielding himself, I suppose. Actually, I gotta say I'm impressed that you came up with the answer on that Dylan question. It had me stumped..
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 01:00 PM

Crispian St. Peters! Man I always wondered what that guy's real name was. Could it possibly his REAL one? In Canada and (at least parts of) the States "We Five" had the hit song on "You Were On My Mind". Didn't Crispian also do Ochs' "Changes"?

Very good, folks. Only one to go. The names of the Seeger siblings (other than Pete, Peggy, and Mike) who recorded.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 12:45 PM

From a good source (old Dylan post from yourself, Rick Fielding), Bob Dylan was "Blind Boy Grunt" on a Folkways album.
OK, so we've got Scott Mackenzie for the Phillips question; Josh White for Ovation - think he tried the guitar at the Gaslight in D.C. (Mr. Kamin made one for Glen Campbell soon after); at least one of the two American groups was mentioned; so we're close but no Seeger yet.

Mark

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Will Bakker
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 03:34 AM

Ian & Sylvia's hit was "you were on my mind". It was a hit by Crispian St. Peters.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: bbelle
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 09:07 PM

Rick ... not meant to be an "ouch," just a bit of trivia. PP&M continue to be one of my all-time favorite folk groups and I still sing a lot of "their" music. moonchild

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 05:14 PM

Well, that's one more correct answer...Josh White is spot on. Congrats "Paw".

"moon", never heard that one. Ouch!

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 05:02 PM

Hey...just saw this and already I'm confused as to what's been or not been answered.....Seems no one (typically) has much interest in Ovation so I'll take a shot...Wish I had their damn "History of" type book...I've passed it up several times...somebody will eventually have it REAL cheap (I mean in the guitar world, it's a short history).

Thinking back, they went after a lot of artists like Charlie Byrd (jazz) and I think it was '69 or '70 when Marcel Dadi came onboard...doesn't fit either. The first Big Star type was of course Glen Campbell and a lot of others came along in the early '70's. My best guess, 'cause I can't remember them all, that would fit your description would be Josh White.

Gotta go cook supper...back later.

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: bbelle
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 03:18 PM

I stand corrected on referring Ian & Sylvia as an American act. Don't know why I did that; have never even thought of them as such. PP&M nickname: "Mitch, Skitch, and the Bitch."

Subject: RE: trivia
From: John Hindsill
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 02:50 PM

I was thinking of Ribbon of Darkness and Early Morning Rain with my answers. Don't know it EMR was a hit-hit for Ian &Sylvia, but they named a whole album after it.

Funny thing, Marty Robbins had a really big country hit with Ribbon, but no country music station in southern California would play the original Lightfoot recording; bet it was that way elsewhere also.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 02:09 PM

Zeroin' in Joe. "Flowers.." is keereect! As far as actual AM. "hit" recordings, The first two were "Ribbon.." by Marty Robbins, and "That's What..." by PP&M. But here's one I don't have an answer to. Did Ian and Sylvia have an actual "hit"? Believe Grossman managed Lightfoot, PP&M and Dylan. The Marty Robbins connection came from Lightfoot friend and country/pop singer George Hamilton the fourth (Abilene, and A Rose and a Baby Ruth) I'm told that a lot of country singers were trying to jump on the folk bandwagon, so they were lookin at folkie writers. The ones who did, had a lot of hits, like "Gotta Travel On" by Billy Grammer, "500 Miles" by Bobby Bare, "Little Brown Shack" (outhouse) by Billy Edd Wheeler, and of course Johnny Cash with some Dylan songs.

Still some more unanswered questions "cats". Post a few, as well.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 01:52 PM

Or was the connection to Lightfoot through Albert Grossman, who was tied to PP&M and Bob Dylan? Dylan didn't record a Lightfoot song, did he?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 01:39 PM

Rick, if I were to say, "be sure to wear some flowers in your hair," would that be an appropriate hint for the one about John Phillips' TV star daughter?
Were Lightfoot and the two American acts all managed by Milt Okun?
Is it appropriate to call Ian and Sylvia an "American" act?
Was "Early Morning Rain" the other song? I think I'd call it the song.
-Joe offer-

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 01:22 PM

PP and M did "thats what.... Marty Robbins did "Ribbon of Darkness". Don't know their nickname.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: bbelle
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 11:18 AM

I think the Gordon Lightfoot is Ian & Sylvia and PP&M for "That's What You Get For Lovin' Me."

Now ... what was the nickname for PP&M during the '60's?

Subject: RE: trivia
From: John Hindsill
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 11:06 AM

Marty Robbins and Ian & Sylvia would be my Gordon Lightfoot guess.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 10:57 AM

"Trivia eh"? hoo boy, love it. Ok, here's one:

Who was John Phillips' TV star daughter named after?

Canadian Gordon Lightfoot was "discovered" when 2 big name American acts each recorded one of his songs at about the same time. What were the songs? Who were the acts?

Can't stop now.

What was Bob Dylan's pseudonym, on a Folkways(subsidiary) album?

Pete, Peggy, and Mike Seeger are well known. Two of their siblings also recorded in the 50s. Name them.

The Ovation Company's first guitar went to a popular folk and blues singer. Who 'dat?

OK I'll get lost now.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Night Owl
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 03:45 AM

COOOOL!!!!! Guess the dishes won't get done tomorrow...taking a guitar lesson!

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 03:19 AM

Scotch and Soda
  
  Artists: The Kingston Trio—from their 1958 debut  LP "The Kingston Trio"
  —also peaked as a single at #81 on Billboard in 1962.
  Words and Music by Trio member Dave Guard
  
  
                                          Fmaj7    = xx3210
  Fmaj7            Fm6/maj7               Fm6/maj7 = xx0110
  Scotch and soda, mud in your eye
  C               A
  Baby do I feel high 
            D7           E7               D7 = x00212 or x5453x
  Oh me oh my do I feel high
  
  
  Fmaj7         Fm6/maj7
  Dry martini, jigger of gin
  C                       A
  Oh what a spell you've got me in 
      D7            E7
  Oh my, do I feel high
  
  
  F                                  C        Dm7  G7    C
  People won't believe me, they'll think that I'm just braggin'
      D7
  But I could feel the way I do
        G7           Dm7 G7
  And still be on the wagon.
  
  
  Fmaj7         Fm6/maj7             C               A7
  All I need is one of your smiles, sunshine of your eye
           D7    G7      C             E7       A7
  Oh me oh my do I feel higher than a kite can fly
  D7              G7           C   -  E7
  Give me lovin', baby, I feel high.
  
  
       F                                 C        Dm7  G7    C
  Oh, People won't believe me, they'll think that I'm just braggin'
      D7
  But I could feel the way I do
        G7           Dm7 G7
  And still be on the wagon.
  
  
  Fmaj7         Fm6/maj7             C               A7
  All I need is one of your smiles, sunshine of your eyes
           D7    G7      C             E7       A7
  Oh me oh my do I feel higher than a kite can fly
  D7              G7       (*)               C - Fm - C - Bb6 - C6
  Give me lovin', baby I  feel high.
  
  
  (*) Stretch a D on the 2nd string
  
  Bb6 (B flat 6th) is 224444 (indicating frets from low  to high strings) and C6 is 335555.  

  There's also a nice intro that goes something like this..  

  e--------2-2-----2-2-----1-1-1--|
  b--------2-2-----2-2-----1-1-1--|
  g--------2-2-----2-2-----1-1-1--|  (repeat)
  D--------2-2-----4-4-----1-1-1--|
  A------0------------------------|
  E----0-------0-2-----2-4--------|
  
  
  Transcribed by Ronald E. Hontz  

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 03:11 AM

Scotch and Soda, Kingston Trio.
Next question?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: trivia
From:
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 02:52 AM

Does anyone know what folk song features the lyrics "people don't believe me...but I can feel the way I feel and still ride the wagon"?? Please answer.