Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 09:01 AM

I forgot my scrumpy bottle! It was suggested I give it to someone, but it got forgotten when I broke my tent down. Aplogies... Won't happen again.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 08:15 AM

I do and did remove all my own rubbish.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Mick Woods
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 08:04 AM

Myself and Kay took two bags of rubbish on Saturday morning. If people just took all their own rubbish, that would be a start! A lot of people just dump their cans/bottled by the fire and about them. I thought Michael Jackson was rubbish I would have taken him if he had been there.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 06:47 AM

You mean he will be invited NOT to attend? It's different!

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Essex Girl
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 03:17 AM

Regarding the clearing up issues, I belatedly suggested that anyone who had room could take a binbag of bottles/cans away with them to be put in their own bins. At the folkmob meeting last night Mick said that he had to spend hours at the site on Monday clearing it up, despite te fact that most of the rubbish had been collected into bags. We all forget things like the hose pipe and the loos, which have to be cleared up. We are intending to write a list of all the jobs that need to be done at the end of the festival, and will then ask for volunteers - the more the merrier!
P.S. a certain person will not be invited to attend Knockholt in September.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: GUEST,Stoneings Lane
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 02:37 AM

"Jointing Issues"

Not here!

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 07:20 PM

Awwwww!!! Big Hug to Casper!!!!

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 05:17 PM

RESSIPY TIME AS PROMISED

Harissa 1 (makes about half a jamjarful)
3 to 4 tbsp dried chili flakes
A bulb of garlic
About 2 tbstp red paprika
2 tsp (NOT tbsp) caraway seed
2 tsp (NOT tbsp) coriander seed
1 or 2 tsp (NOT tbsp) cumin seed (technically you should dry roast this then grind it)
HALF tsp salt (or a good grind of nice salt – do not overdo it)
A good grind of black pepper
A handful of leaves of fresh mint (theoretically spearmint, but any other mint will do, I used lemon mint)

Soak the chilli flakes in boiling water. Drain AND KEEP the water (to use for thinning the paste if required)

Put the flakes and everything else in the blender and blend like the hammers of hell for several minutes, thinning as necessary with equal quantities of extra virgin (ie not from Knockholt) olive oil (or trendy modern seed oil of choice). Contemplate on the vicissitudes of life of the poor Moroccans who had to do that by hand.

Taste with great care. If much too fiery, try adding a little lemon or lime (supermarket juice like Jif will do but fresh and with the rind is nicer).

Put in jar in fridge. A thin layer of olive oil will help it keep.

Simples!


Harissa 2 (makes about two pound jamjarful)
9 oz of fresh chilis. I used about half a doz of the long ones for flavour, one Scotch bonnet 'cos it was all I had, and the rest frozen bird-eyes, so if you use 9 oz of fresh bonnets or 9 oz of fresh bird-eyes it will be hotter still.
2 tbsp honey, clear and runny if possible
A small grind of sea salt or more to taste
3 heaped tsp (not tbsp) carraway seeds (should be ground but if you blend hard enough who cares?)
3 heaped tsp (not tbsp) cumin seeds
Another tsp BLACK cumin seeds if you can get them
A bulb of garlic
4 oz of fresh piquillo peppers (whatever they are if you can get them) or bell peppers (preferably red, and you can roast and peel them if you like)
2 tsp tomato puree
2 tsp (NOT tbsp) red wine vinegar
4 tsp (NOT tbsp) extra virgin (ie not from Knockholt) olive oil (or trendy modern seed oil of choice)
About 2 tbstp red paprika
Half tbsp of the kernels from cardamom seeds. Shelling the cardomoms is boring.


Put everything in the blender and blend like the hammers of hell for several minutes. Thinning should not be needed. Contemplate on the vicissitudes of life of the poor Moroccans who had to do that by hand.

Taste with great care. If much too fiery, try adding a little lemon or lime (supermarket juice like Jif will do but fresh and with the rind is nicer).

Put in jar in fridge. A thin layer of olive oil will help it keep.



Lamb Tagine (you can scale down the dosage as necessary)
200g of dried apricots (fresh or tinned will do but then you don't need to soak them)
1 ½ to 2 kg of lamb. Most recipes say boned shoulder and that is what I used at Knockers, but I suspect that breast would be very good for the fat to absorb the spices – and cheaper too. You can use chicken or even vegetables in stead but then you will need another source of fats to absorb the spices. Diced turkey is cheap in supermarkets sometimes.
A big onion or two smaller. Red ones might be nice but I haven't tried them. Spanish are probably too mild.
A bulb of garlic (notice the cavalier attitude to garlic, here. Be careful if you are on the pull)
2 tsp (NOT tbsp) coriander seed OR 1 or 2 tbsp coriander leaves
1 or 2 tsp (NOT tbsp) cumin seed
1 tbsp ground cinnamon
400 g or more of tomatoes
4 tbsp extra virgin (ie not from Knockholt) olive oil (or trendy modern seed oil of choice)
500g or more of carrots (chunked)
500g or more courgettes (chunked)
3cm of root ginger
A lemon (or lime)
As much saffron as you can afford (Linda had a lump the size of a golfball that she got cheap in Morocco so we used all of that)
20 black olives (pitted, WITHOUT the brine they came in!)
Tbsp ground almonds if you fancy them: I don't
A large tablespoon of harissa or more to taste
Salt and pepper to taste
Flour to thicken


Fry the meat in the oil until sealed
Fry the onions in the oil until translucent (add more oil if you like)
Put in tagine. If you have not got a tagine a thick-bottomed cast iron pot or a Dutch oven or a casserole will do but you may need to be wary ofcooking on open fire!
Grate the ginger into the tagine.
Slice the lemon into circles, and segment – about 8 to a slice. They will make little sour bombs as you eat!
Fold the ginger and lemon into the contents of the tagine.
Add water so that it nearly covers.
Bring to boil and simmer GENTLY for an hour or more (on fire, in oven or in chimnea or on BBQ – but GENTLY. It doesn't matter if it goes off the boil so long as it does not cool below about 80 degrees centigrade.
Take off some liquid, make a flour paste, fry, adding a little liquid to make a roux, and return to the pot to thicken. Or just dump some flour in if you prefer, or you could add some cornflour to cool water and add so it thicken s of its own accord as it heats. If you want to be really ethnic you could use chickpeas – but BEWARE you don't want it so thick it sticks to the bottom of the pan.
Add everything else except for the courgettes and olives (well, you want the courgettes with some texture and the olives in one piece, don't you?)
Simmer gently for half to three quarters of an hour
Add the courgettes and olives.   Get going on your rice or cous-cous at this point too.
Simmer for about another 15 minutes, thickening and adding salt and pepper to taste


Serve over rice or cous-cous – or fancy bread if you prefer but I hate Morroccan and Eritrean breads.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 02:50 PM

Yep, prolly would so long as there were no jointing issues with connecting to old fashioned copper, iron, or lead pipes.

We could clean teh sheep drinking trough too!

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 02:38 PM

http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;jsessionid=4FAN23P0LEQGYCSTHZOCFFA?_dyncharset=UTF-8&fh_search=water+pipe&searchbutton.x=0&searchbutton.y=0&searchbutton=submit

The blue water pipe and fittings is what you need . Not too expensive.

Al

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 02:05 PM

I have a large oven...

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Girl Friday
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 01:56 PM

Given the sad story now revealed on the BS thread for saving The Chicken .Would Dillygaff help out in the Avian Accomodation Crisis? She has a large garden.0

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: The Barden of England
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 01:55 PM

Oh my God !!!!!!   Banjo!!!!!! That's SO unfair!!!!!
John Barden

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: fisheye
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 11:55 AM

Mr Bardons's penance for Knockholt will be to play one song playing a Banjo.

See you all at Aylesford.

Fisheye.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: GUEST,TDL
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 10:32 AM

Poor old Caspar. He seemed to make the best he could of Knockers. Hope he makes it through to September. Who else will eat DK's sausages?

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 07:16 AM

Thanks Richard. By the way I've been making some wonderful concoctions with your harissa paste this week, I think maybe you and Pierre should hold a cookery workshop this September.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 06:22 AM

PLC - the logo on Royston's red walking tent said "Coleman". Coleman are a known supplier of camping stoves, lights, etc.

Sue - so sad about Casper.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 05:28 AM

Some very helpful ideas and suggestions Royston thanks, I think Mick is going to give you a ring. Yes the toilets were an issue this year, in fact they were appalling in the end Adeloo only charged us for two (a reduction of £120) after initially offering us a 10% discount as a way of making amends, needless to say we won't be using them again. We've got the contact details now for the company that supplied the loos for Pigs Ear so we'll make some enquiries there, I think now when most people have sat navs finding the field won't be the problem it was about twelve years ago when we first graduated from one camping loo in a tent to proper on-site toilets, It took them about 4 years of getting lost before they eventually remembered where we were.

I'm glad everyone enjoyed themselves I know I did, I also learnt somethig very useful thanks to Linda - rice can be cooked to perfection in water that never boils.

For those of you who know and love (or hate) Casper his results came back on Tuesday and he's got lymphoma he started his treatment yesterday so hopefully he'll hang around long enough to squeeze in another Knockers in September, so be warned hang on to your bangers! for those who don't know Casper I should probably add that he's a dog.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 04:15 AM

Pierre, what is the material the pipe is made out of at that point?

Is it heavy-duty hose?
Is it UPVC or similar stuff used nowadays in houses?
Is it old fashined coper or lead pipe?

Does anyone know whether farm water supplies are generally metered these days? I am sure that pretty well all other industrial water supplies are.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 04:12 AM

Roystone

where did you get that Red tent you were wearing Saturday night,
The one you can stick your head through the roof and your legs through the ground sheet and go walk about?

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 04:08 AM

After thought.
If Knockholts water supply is Monitored by water meter that can be very expensive for the farmer. But surely this cannot be the case in regards to the leak or it would be permanently
expensive and the waste water issue would be appalling to boot.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 04:01 AM

Roystone the water issue was mentioned by me at Folkmobs A,G,M. which was held a few months prior to this years Kockholt.

I was told quite firmly that '' There is absolutely NOTHING. that can be done about the water.
and thats all there is to it. So I pursued the matter no further.

fact..
There is only one major leak and I know where that is situated (Tell tale signs) but it is in the next field and I will not trespass.

I noticed this year a repair job had been done to the leaky section of pipe and indeed it worked, The pressure was up and water flowed out very good but due to the repair being done by wrapping gaffer tape round the leaky section it was doomed to failure. Indeed it failed that afternoon.

I have showed concern for Knockholt water for the last three years but it appears no one can do anything about it whereby clearly I know One Can?

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 01:40 PM

PS - dinner of harissa paste on cold chicken legs, both left over from Knocholt. Yum!

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 01:38 PM

I'm guessing, but if there are leaks between the mains water going onto the farm and the tap we conect to, surely the water supply will be metered so fixing any such leaks will save the farmer money, won't it? So if we can help we'd be the good guys??

I don't think anyone objects to the price of Knockholt - and again I'm not really in the loop, but the sense I got was that there had been a change in control in the committee of folkmob and the incomers waited until the old guard were absent before changing something that had been part of folkmob for a long time - namely the subsidy from surplus club funds to Knockholt.

Maybe some of the usual concessions would need concessions if the price went up a lot, but let's face it we all spend more on beer than on the camping field...

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Royston
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 01:22 PM

I just wanted to thank everyone for a great Knockers again, especially Folkmob organisers for sorting it all out. I get the sense there are some price-issues.

There needn't be; the thing is so cheap that I can't believe it happens at all. Charge a bit more, get some better toilets and it will still be cheap and even more enjoyable.

Suggestions for committee;

1.
Contact the farmer about the water supply. The problem just seems to be leaks. If he can help us to trace the pipes and the leaks and help us with clearing the hedges and thorns to access the damage areas (and maybe for brews and cleaning up afterwards) then I will volunteer to join a working party to fix things up a bit. He might even do it all himself?

2.
Getting the Marquee up is quite easy with available labour on Thursday. A few of us got it done OK this year. We need to agree and secure volunteers, in advance, for striking it on the Sunday. This must the easiest/simplest/fairest option. Regret I had to leave sharpish this year, but that is unusual.

3.
Nobody has been talking out of turn about this (and I am a know-nothing new member to Folkmob) but from bitter experience of these things can I ask whether the committe might think itself too large? It sounds like a cast of thousands when there is not a lot to do, but some things that must be done efficiently. If the board of a large company only needs Chair, Vice-Chair, Finance, Secretary and 2 A.N. Others then that is certainly all that's needed for us, n'est ce pas? I just think that the hard-working folks that step up to do the management should be able to make things as efficient as possible and receive full support from the members.

4.
The toilets were an issue this year, I thought the provider was taking the P*** (no pun intended.) I wonder if we should look elsewhere? I heard that it has been awkward to find companies that can deliver to site reliably (find the field!) but again I would be happy to volunteer to meet the truck at the Tally Ho at an agreed time and lead them up the road. Perhaps others would, I'm sure we could work this stuff out between us.

What's great about Knockers is its "family" atmosphere...like a private folk festival. I don't believe in complaining or moaning like its a deficient commercial enterprise, let's get stuck in together and support it?

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 12:42 PM

No need to carry a guilty burden on your shoulders John.
"You were Right . Total Backing.


' I put it to you"
"A Barden, who carried a burden ?    "We cant have That"
"Give me that burden ,Barden.
Thats it I have thrown Barden,s burden in next doors garden.   
I beg your pardon.
Bardens burden has been lifted, (Big Sigh)

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: GUEST,Girl Friday
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 12:05 PM

Very relieved that the Barden has solved his quandry and chosen the right path

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 09:55 AM

Whew! What a relief. Had me worried there Mr. Barden.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: The Barden of England
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 09:41 AM

Not me Kevin - another chap.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: melodeonboy
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 07:52 AM

John Barden barred from Knockholt?! No, I can't believe it!

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 07:34 AM

He was only barred from 1 knockholt that was 2 years ago and he hasn't been since. I don't expect to see him there again apparently.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Mick Woods
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 06:00 AM

John Barden is one of the best musicians that attends KH.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Mick Woods
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 04:01 AM

Just found out who the certain person(?) was - I put it to you, that he was barred from Knockholt by the committee, so how come he was back? Did the same committe that wants to hike up the price vote for him to be un-barred?

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 03:57 AM

Barden! Barden!

That's our one, not the German one!!!

:-)

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 03:41 AM

Ooooh, difficult question: -

Barden with his occasional short fuse, or a certain other person?

Tell you what, let's have Barden!

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: The Barden of England
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 02:57 AM

OK - I just thought that I had spoilt it somewhat by not 'biting my tongue'. So I'll be there in September. I'm happier now.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 08:06 PM

Pete,

Thats a shame- I thought for one minute they might be doing something useful with my money!

Ken

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 07:17 PM

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 07:16 PM

Hi Raffles
"Nice to wave across the Rochester way to you folk earlier tonight on me way to me dads .

Back to Dylan and a fond goodnight to all.
PS. i put it to you........
" I f you ...dont stop it John ......this quandry Parlava.......I,ll Start a new thread and let the world decide.

"I know what they will ."Put to you.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 06:59 PM

John, get out of that quandry now! we'll be expecting to see you and Jan at Knockholt in September.

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 06:35 PM

Time for Dylan..

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 06:27 PM

"Wine did not come from Museum".
" It was given to me from a Function held at the Museum back in mid June.Large Corporate Company. Has a Thanks for watching there Cars/Vans.
"I had to drink it by end of August or they would want it back"

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 06:16 PM

John Barden ,
Your Return to the circle brought "Order and Goal' and a Great Ride On and a show of tolerance to which you dont usually Lose It.
Kind regards Pierre..

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 06:08 PM

No trouble Pete. And your wine from the museum! Now I know where my friends subs go to !

Ken

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 05:50 PM

Ken Thanks for lift home?

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: GUEST,Girl Friday
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 05:49 PM

John ! Don't you dare desert us in September. Who would leas Ride On?

Don't let silly incidents keep you away. We love you

Sue x

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 05:45 PM

"John You were Right"

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 05:43 PM

Hi Woodsie
No Oak No Rugby club. Me Mum Died a year today.
Next Week Both clubs.
Apart from that its the end of he month and me wallet sounds like a TDL Bongo.Grrrrrr,Brrrrrr.

If its in yer its gotta come out of ye . Hit The Dylan

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 03:38 PM

Actually it was a striped polo shirt and maroon pullover from Topman that I found. Anyones? Ken

Subject: RE: Knockholt - This Is Summer! - June 2009
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 03:35 PM

I think in respect of the minor 'moments' that occurred at my first Knockholt, I'd hope that no-one harbors any ill-feeling or discomfort about them in any direction.

My experience of the weekend was not marred by a long straw!
And I don't know about anyone else, but I have no qualms about returning this September in order to 'endure' more of same... :)