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Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)

MorwenEdhelwen1 07 Aug 11 - 07:08 AM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 07:08 AM

That chorus is one of the cleareat lyrics on the Lord Invader recording, which is number M33004 on the Juneberry78s website.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 07:03 AM

BTW, to bring this back to "Fan Me Saga Boy", there are numerous other songs about "saga boys", also from around WWII. "Just because me blouse ent long/an' me pants ent bracin with a waist by my shoulders", is a reference to the clothes wore by the saga boys in that time period. According to what Ive read on Google Books, saga boys were young men who sometimes worked as pimps for streetwalkers or gamblers. They apparently had a reputation for living off the money earned by the women, not actually supporting themselves, and wore long shirts and pants with high waistlines. The male narrator of this song is making fun of his girlfriend and shaming her for her infidelity. "Fan me saga boy, fan me, /Fan me saga boy, fan me,/ Long live our gracious king, but I'll kiss me saga boy Christmas morning."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 04:28 AM

Yeah, but does it *mean* anything?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 04:17 AM

seems to be a Trooper and the Maid type song. Just ordinary patois you can hear on the streets of Brixton and Birmingham.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 02:17 AM

EDIT: Just noticed.'z' should be ''s''. In the last verse of "Fan Mi Solja Man" , the word "back" is a mistake. It's "Ev'rybody come bawl out sey, "Gyal yu characta gone!" . "Fan Mi Solja Man" goes back to at least 1904 and appears in "Jamaican song and Story" . The version in that book has only one verse, and the girl sells(?) herself for "sake-a ten-shilling shahl(shawl)"and mi characta gone!" Slightly related- does anyone know what a "stace-up" is? Does it mean anything, or is it just thrown in to rhyme with "lace-up?". I'm assuming it refers to clothes or jewellery.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Fan Mi Solja Man
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 10:17 PM

"Fan Mi Solja Man", from the Jamaican folk music"= thread. Also posted on the thread "Balladz and songs about ladies of the night".
It's a Jamaican song.

Fan Mi Solja Man
(Traditional. From "Mango Time: Folk Songs of Jamaica)
1. Sake-a coolie-man bangle,
Sake-a coolie-man bangle,
Sake a coolie-man silver bangle,
Oh, gyal yu characta gone!

(Chorus)

Fan mi solja man, fan mi,
Fan mi solja man, fan mi,
Fan mi solja man, fan mi,
Oh gyal yu characta gone!

2. Whe' di use yu a haul-up, shawl-up,
Whe' di use yu a haul-up, shawl-up,
Whe' di use yu a haul-up, shawl-up,
An' yu characta gone!

(Chorus)

3. Whe' di use yu a lace-up, stace-up,
Whe' di use yu a lace-up, stace up,
Whe' di use yu a lace-up, stace-up,
An' yu characta gone!

(Chorus)
4. Gyal wha mak yu so faas and facey,
Gyal wha mek yu so faas and facey,
Gyal wha mek yu so faas and facey,
An' yu characta gone!

(Chorus)

5. Since di baby come bawn
An' him daddy gone a Contingent,
Ev'rybody come back bawl out sey
"Gyal yu characta gone!"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 09:08 PM

Hi, Joe- reason I haven't been on too much is because I need to revise stuff for my HSC- Australian equaivalent of SATS. I'm doing it over a number of years and I have trial exams to prepare for the real thing, which are coming in a couple of months. I've got my second and third exams next week- second one is on Tuesday my time
and since I plan on studying ethnomusicology, I need to work harder to achive good results and get into university.But I'll be on when my studying and exams are finished for this year and I have time to practice music and other things :).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 09:02 PM

This is from youtube- Sorry, can't get my ears around it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHO7vwhbs9w
Fan Me Saga Boy, The Lion (Hubert Charles), with Gerald Clark and his Original Calypsoans.
Copyright 1945
Also done by Lord Invader.

New take on Fan Me Solja Man, which seems to be older.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 08:54 PM

The title is actually "Fan me saga boy, fan me", although I don't think that will make a difference with this search.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 08:35 PM

Hi, Morwen. I haven't seen you here for a while, and I've missed you. You introduced me to a whole world of Caribbean music, far beyond Lord Burgess and Belafonte.

I can't make much of "Fan Me Saga Boy," either. For those with courage to try, you can find a recording on YouTube.

-Joe-


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Subject: Lyr Req: Fan Me Saga Boy (Roaring Lion)
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 07:30 PM

"My girl May, you have me bazodee,
----,
My girl May, you have me bazodee,
---,
Just because me blouse ent long,
And me pants ent bracin' with a waist by my shoulders,
You wait until I went out on a Xmas evenin',
Then you bring you saga in me house romancin'.

I can only figure some bit of the lyrics, for example "I even noticed some naval action." Anyone can figure out the rest, especially the line in blanks?


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