BS: Pathetic goading

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:20 AM

Strikes me, the priority should be to actively seek pragmatic solutions to perceived social problems.
By active willingness to attempt to achieve workable compromise and consensus, to establish common ground agreements
and mutually benefitial resolutions as swiftly as pracaticable.

Not to indulge in perpetual confrontational fixed vewpoint ideological hostilities
in a never ending costly 'playground bullies' fight of attrition.

ie.. there are far too many loudmouth zealots on all sides who need to be told to shut up and eff off,
so sensible folk caring can get on with trying to unravel the fucked up society
these uncompromising die hard wankers have created and sustained.

I watched 10 minutes of Prime Minister's Question Time the other day;
what a bunch of smarmy smug toss pots.

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:12 AM

MacColl's tribute to the archetypal anti-liberal, Eunuch the Excellent
Jim Carroll

Present-day hero,‎
Sporting a pinstripe and wearing the regiment's tie,‎
Blood in his eye - the world on his shoulder.‎
Trims his moustache while he's dreaming of destiny's hour,‎
Greedy for power -‎
Ready to save the nation, and lead us in the fight,‎
Never a doubt that everything he does is right.‎

National hero,‎
Neat little man who's been chosed by Fate to redeem
The national dream: Imperial Greatness.‎
St. George with a briefcase, he's looking for dragons to slay,‎
Waits for the day -‎
We ask him to save the nation, and lead us in the fight,‎
Never a doubt that God is absolutely white.‎

Classical hero,‎
Standing alone on the bridge, he's defending the race,‎
Setting his face against the invader.‎
Knowing the worth of a man can be seen by his skin,‎
The killing begins -‎
Determined to save the nation, and lead us in the fight,‎
Never a doubt that virtue is pure unblemished white.‎

Yesterday's hero,‎
Trapped in a bunker and died like a rat in a hole,‎
Ultimate goal of second-hand heroes.‎
Another one rises, demanding the right to be heard,‎
And gets the bird -‎
History shrugs its shoulders. Gives a big horse-laugh,‎
And the cut-price hero ends up with the rest of the trash!‎

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:07 AM

Definition of "liberal (small l)" from the 'Oxford English Reference Dictionary': "given freely, ample, abundant, open-minded, ot prejudiced, not strict or righteous, favouring individuality".....
Just about as far away from our resident old-usual goose-steppers as you could get.
Perhaps our rightist friend meant it as a compliment, d'you think?
Islamophobic threads are a little like London buses - if you miss one, there'll be another one along in a minute.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Musket
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 11:02 AM

Who in particular then Keith?

Most of the normal, respectable, decent sane people who you refer to as "lefties" tend to, with few exceptions, oppose the idea of faith schools and this story proves the point that children should be protected from religion rather than brainwashed by its dangerous influence.

By the way, when you say "we" and "they" be careful who you get into bed with... You certainly don't refer to the majority of Mudcat members, the vast majority are rational, balanced and capable of reason.

You just posted to put forward your Islamaphobia didn't you?

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 10:39 AM

Once again, someone, the same person as last time, has started a thread by challenging "liberals" to defend something that he thinks is bad.

Actually he was just pointing out that our lefties appear to have been proved wrong about something again.
I suppose that is goading, but why should we tip-toe around their feelings when they are so nasty to anyone who challenges or questions them?

If they were ever proved right they would be insufferable!

Subject: RE: BS: Pathetic goading
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 10:06 AM

I think one of the main perpetual barriers to ever establishing sensible solutions to real recognisable problems in society,
is that they inevitably become polarised and apropriated as either 'left' or 'right' propaganda issues.

The stupid, ignorant, stubborn, belligerent, doctrinaire, arseholes at all extremes of the political spectrum,
are all our own worse enemies...

Subject: BS: Pathetic goading
From: Musket
Date: 18 Jul 14 - 09:20 AM

Once again, someone, the same person as last time, has started a thread by challenging "liberals" to defend something that he thinks is bad.

A thread has just opened on the operation trojan horse.

The OP has decided that people will defend the indefensible and invites them to do so.

Is it just me, or are some people beyond help?