BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: DougR
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 06:06 PM

No.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 06:02 PM

tsk..you see, Villan? They don't stop. Funny *I* should be flamed by a guest who is posting like I suggest, WITH a name.

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: GUEST,The Newt
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:56 PM

Ah Uncle BillD, please tell us more bedtime stories about the wicked guest witches. Did they lock them up in a Free Speech Zone tower at the edge of the political wilderness? Did they ever burn any of them? And did they eat them all up with barbeque sauce?

Please Uncle BillD, tell us ANOTHER wicked guest witch story! Please! Please!

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:51 PM

*grin*...great, Ron Olesko...."I hate censorship..please delete this thread"

newt...if I don't 'get my way', I will still be here, and "pissin' & moanin'" will be the least of my concerns. I have opinions, and I sometimes state them.

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Raedwulf
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:50 PM

Yes.

In principle.

In practice...

Who appointed you to ask, never mind decide?

So this'll be another pointless thread that you can respond to or ignore at your pleasure. Much like all the rest that the Clones rarely deign to take notice of, then? So it'll have what effect then?

Bugger all...

Yep, that's what I thought...

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Rasener
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:45 PM

No problem Greg.

Its a vote

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Deckman
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:45 PM

I vote "NO." (does that surprise you?)

If you think that reguliar members are leaving MC, just wait until you see the numbers of "moderators" that will leave if this plan is put in effect.

I learned, some time ago, that the easiest answer to flamers is also the MOST effective. Just ignore them. I'm still amazed at the number of long time MC'ers that seem incapable of NOT RESPONDING to jerks. In my own case, there are two regular catters that, if I even see that they have posted on a thread of interest to me, I quit that thread. Notice that I did NOT say that I challenge them to some kind of a pissing contest, I just leave the thread.

I hope, given time, enough catters will catch on and those very offensive catters will find themselves locked in a room, all by themselves, pissing each other off.

In the meantime, I've got a LOT BETTER things to enjoy. CHREERS and THANKS to all. Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: greg stephens
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:40 PM

NO
Of course I dont like abusive anonymous crap. But I like these proposals even less I'm afraid. They are designed to deal with a real problem that annoys most of us greatly, but the solution propoed is worse than the problem. Sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: GUEST,The Newt
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:38 PM

That's right. If BillD doesn't get his way about MAKING guests be members, then he is gonna...keep pissin' and moanin' about guests like everybody else does!

Ironic, isn't it, that Jerry Rasmussen left because he was fed up with asshole members, yet the best solutions that have been offered to solve the problems follow along these lines?

CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE:
How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2:
She looks like one.
CROWD:
Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE:
Bring her forward.
WITCH:
I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE:
Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH:
They dressed me up like this.
CROWD:
Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH:
And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE:
Well?
VILLAGER #1:
Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE:
The nose?
VILLAGER #1:
And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2:
Yeah!
CROWD:
We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE:
Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1:
No!
VILLAGER #2 and 3:
No. No.
VILLAGER #2:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
No.
VILLAGERS #2 and #3:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes.
VILLAGER #2:
Yes.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGERS #1 and #2:
A bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Rasener
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:37 PM

I understand what you are saying Bill D, and accept "yes in concept.


This is a serious YEs or No situation. If we start commenting then it will soon become flamed. That is not the intention.

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:36 PM

Who's deciding this stuff?

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:36 PM

Yes...

But I think


-Stop guests being able to contribute to mudcat threads. Only allow them to read threads.

Make guests post in a seperate section that is moderated and abusive posts removed immediately.-

Are unnecessarily repetitive

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:31 PM

NO!!

I am against censoring any of these posts. This is not Disney World.

I don't care for anonymous guests either, they are gutless trolls. The flaming is wrong. However, I despise the suggestions you have made. You are suggesting creating a "thought police" and I am dead set against that.

This supposed "abuse" is something we all need to deal with. I was flamed a few weeks ago by a guest and I went off the deep end. It was my fault for becoming a victim.

Closing down all the bars will not cure alcholism. Everyone needs to deal with this as individuals.   

I hate the premise of this thread.   Can I get a moderator to remove this?????

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:30 PM

'yes' to the concept
'no' to the details, which are much too complex to administer easily

just a requirement that 'guests' must choose a name, even if they don't register, would satisfy me.

really abusive posts would continue to be deleted and certain threads closed at the discretion of Joe or Jeff.

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Rasener
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:29 PM

Sorry forgot to vote


YES

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Amos
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:26 PM

No.

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: GUEST,The Newt
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:22 PM

YOU BETCHA! You've bought my vote there Villan.

Now the, who shall we nominate for Mudcat Guest Gestapo Coordinator to take on the job? It'll be grand to watch the round-up. You can sell tickets to support Max and his poor wee indigent family!

A Guest "Free Speech Zone". I love it!

Did you get that idea from the Democratic Leadership Council?

Thanks there Villan, et al. This is the best laugh I've had all day!

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: maggiethecat
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:17 PM

yes

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: jimmyt
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:16 PM

yes

Subject: RE: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:15 PM

Yes

Subject: BS: Poll - Stop Flaming and Abusive posting
From: Rasener
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:12 PM

All this poll requires is for each member to vote yes or no to the following. Guests votes will not be included in the final anaysis.

Vote YES
If you want the moderators to take a very strong approach to mudcat members who FLAME or are abusive to other mudcat members. Good humoured banter is not the issue.

Stop guests being able to contribute to mudcat threads. Only allow them to read threads.

Make guests post in a seperate section that is moderated and abusive posts removed immediately.

Have a "report to moderator button" when a thread seems to be getting out of hand. In such cases the thread is locked until the issues are sorted out.

Vote No

If you don't agree. Remember guests do not get a vote, so any posting from guests is ignored.




At the end of the day, I think most decent mudcat members do not want the abuse that seems to be going on at the moment, to continue.
I have to say that I am getting alarmed at the amount of abuse that is being handed out by the minority, which is causing good mudcat members to leave the forum.

So "Stand up and be counted"