Kinder Scout Mass Trespass Anniversary

Subject: RE: Kinder Scout Anniversary
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 07:19 PM

To which Alan Franks added:

The rambling beak installed in session
Is one part ass, nine parts possession
Twelve men and women seldom seek
To steal the session from the beak

Kitty

Subject: RE: Kinder Scout Anniversary
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 02:55 PM

"The law will hang the man or woman
Who steals a goose from off the common
But turns the greater rascal loose
Who steals the common from the goose"

Subject: RE: Kinder Scout Anniversary
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 04:55 AM

Yes, well said. But how much has anything really changed was the question. The original song is in the DT but as John Tams wrote a decade ago in the new chorus to go with MacColl's words:

Nothing changes, It all stays the same,
They're selling the moorland for profit and gain.
They've sold all the rivers, bought all the rain,
And you can't go up there, you're disturbing the game...

Cod's roe, caviar, milk stout and champagne,
Gold cards and dole cards, but, never the twain,
That's the game, that's their game
Nothing changes, it all stays the same.

(Recorded by Patterson Jordan Dipper on Flat Earth 2002)

How much does music change anything?

Subject: RE: Kinder Scout Anniversary
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 04:42 AM

My God. How time flies. I was on the 6oth anniversary of the trespass in 1992. We started in the middle of Hayfield, went past the memorial to the trespassers and ended up on the moors where the battle took place.

We were led for part of the way by Benny Rothman, who had been one of the leaders and at that time was one of the few survivors. Unfortunately, he was the wrong side of, so he couldn't get very far. But it was a very memorable celebration. My blood still boils at the thought of all those landowners with all those thousands of acres, who believed they had some God given right to keep the working class off the moors and in the miserable slums and hovels which social mischance had assigned to them.

The lousy bunch of bloody parasites thought they could deny the people who'd made their millions for them, the chance of a breath of fresh air once a week.

Subject: RE: Kinder Scout Anniversary
From: Mr Happy
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 04:29 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder_Scout

Subject: RE: Kinder Scout Anniversary
From: Mr Happy
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 04:22 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_trespass_of_Kinder_Scout

Subject: Kinder Scout Anniversary
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 03:32 AM

This week marks the 75th anniversary of the mass trespass on Kinder Scout, an area of wild English moorland set in the Derbyshire countryside beteen the conurbations of Manchester and Sheffield. The confrontation resulted in a score of Ramblers 1 Gamekeepers 0. Ewan MacColl was at the time a very young press officer for the Right To Roam campaign and wrote the song Manchester Rambler to commemorate the occasion. This was later updated by John Tams to emphasise that although mass action led ultimately to the establishment of the National Parks, the issues of land ownership, inequality and social division are still rife.

An example, perhaps, of while music does not in itself change the world, it can precipitate steams of thought which begin to alter atitudes for the better. Thoughts?