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Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee

Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive) 20 Mar 00 - 12:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive)
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 12:30 PM

An image of a Keel Boat on the tyne is here! http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/5863/priests5.html

Conrad


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive)
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 11:52 AM

Interesting that the map of the pee dee district shows a few town names which do relate to the newcastle region- one being- Darlington

Conrad


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive)
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 11:50 AM

There is the south carolina reference: Carolina, geographically, covers three very different topographies. We call them the Blue Ridge or Mountains, the Piedmont and the Coastal Plain. Pee Dee is a continuation of the Piedmont which runs in a diagonal stripe from Virginia, through the Northern Heartland and Southern Heartland of North Carolina, through the Pee Dee and Santee Cooper districts and on into Georgia. While many of us weren't too thrilled with geography in school, the results of the effect this geography has had on the development of the Carolinas is thrilling indeed. Pee Dee gets its name from the mighty Pee Dee River. (In North Carolina this same river is named the Yadkin River.) Dropping almost one thousand feet from the North-South Carolina border to Winyah Bay at Georgetown, the Pee Dee has been responsible for much of the successful development of the area over the last 150 years and, now, largely because of a series of dams, it has created a recreational paradise.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 11:39 AM

Innarestin'

Louise Pound, in 1915, collected a "Banks of the Ohio" version called Banks of the Pedee. (in DigiTrad).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive)
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 11:33 AM

He also comes up here: again with his mate Geordie

The Skipper was vext when his keel gat ashore, Sae for Geordie and Pee-dee he loodly did roar; The sail it was lower'd, but a' waddent dee, Sae he clickt up a coal an' maist fell'd the Pee-dee.

Conrad Bladey

The Jenny Hoolet or Little Mudie's Ghost For Midi sound click here For notation click here

Some time sin' a Skipper was gaun iv his keel, His heart like a lion, his fyece like the De'il; He was steerin' hissel, as he'd oft duin afore, When at auld Lizzie Mudie's his keel ran ashore

Fal- de -ral, &c.

The Skipper was vext when his keel gat ashore, Sae for Geordie and Pee-dee he loodly did roar; The sail it was lower'd, but a' waddent dee, Sae he clickt up a coal an' maist fell'd the Pee-dee.

I' the midst o' their trouble, scarce knaw'n what to do, A voice frae the shore gravely cried oot- Hoo! hoo!. Hoo noo mister Hoo! hoo! is thou myken fun? Or is't the forst keel 'at thoo e'er saw agrun?

Agyen a Hoo! hoo! an' the Skipper he stampt, An' sung oot for Geordie to heave oot a plank; In a ravin' mad passion he curs'd an' he swore, Aw'll hoo! hoo! thou, thou beggar, if aw cum ashore.

Wiv a coal in each hand, ashore then he went, To kill Mister Hoo! hoo! it was his intent; But when he gat there ye may judge his surprise! When back he com runnin'--Oh! Geordie--he cries-

Wey, whe dis' tu' think hes been makin' this gam, Aw'll lay th' my wallet thou'll not guess his nyem, "Is't the ghost of auld Lissie?" Oh, no, thou au'd fool, it Is nee ghost at a'-but an au'd Jenny Hoolet!

-by W. Armstrong to the tune "Gee-Ho! Dobbin" Source A Beuk o' Newcassel Sangs. Joseph Cawhall, 1888


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive)
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 11:28 AM

You will find the name comes up on the Amphitrite: A' Slaverin the Skipper ca'd Geordy an' Jim, For to gan to Newcassel and ax the reet nyem; The youngest he thowt myest, to blame i' this bore, Sae Pee-Dee an' his marrow was seun pack'd ashore.

Conrad Bladey

The Amphitrite

Frae Team gut to Whitley wi'coals black an'broon, For the Amphitrite loaded, the keel had come doon: But the bullies, ower neet had their thropples see wet, That the nyem o' the ship yen an'a' did forget.

Chorus Fal-de-ral...

To find ooot the nyem, noo, each worried his chops, An' claw'd at his hips fit to murder the lops-- Then the Skipper, went hunger'd was a'ways myest bright, Swore the pawhogger luggish was ca'd Empty Kite.

Frae the Point, roond the Girt, a' the time sailin'slow, Each bully kept bawlin', "The Empty Kite, ho!" But their blairin'was vain, for nee Empty Kite there, Tho' they blair'd till their kites were byeth empty an' sair.

A' Slaverin the Skipper ca'd Geordy an' Jim, For to gan to Newcassel and ax the reet nyem; The youngest he thowt myest, to blame i' this bore, Sae Pee-Dee an' his marrow was seun pack'd ashore.

Up the Shields Road they trodg'd i' their myest worn-oot soles, Oft cursin' the Empty Kite, Skipper, and coals; At the sign of "The Coach" they byeth ca'd it befell, To mourn their hard case owre a tankard o' yell.

Here a Buck at a sirloin hardeatin' was seen, An' he said 'at the air'd myed his appetite keen; "Appetite!" cried the bullies--like maislins they stared, Wide gyepin'wi' wonder, till "Crikes!" Jemmy blair'd.

"The Appetite, Geordy! smash! dis tu hear that? It's the varry ootlandish, cull nyem we forgat; Bliss the dandy! for had he not tell't us the nyem, To Newcassel we'd wander'd byeth weary and lyem!"

To Shields back they canter'd an' seun, frae the keel, Roar'd--"The Appetite, ho!" 'neuf to frighten the De'il, Thus they fund oot the ship, cast the coals in a sweat, Still praisin' the Dandy they'd luckily met.

Then into the huddock, weel tir'd they a' gat, An' of Empty Kite, Appetite, lang did they chat, When the Skipper fund oot--(wise as Solomon, King)-- Tho' not the syem word--'twas aboot the syem thing.

-By Robert Gilchrist, to the Tune "Gee-ho! Dobbin," popularly known as "Cappy"., Source A Beuk o' Newcassel Sangs. Joseph Cawhall, 1888


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Subject: RE: Meaning of Pee-Dee
From: Abby Sale
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 08:57 AM

Context doesn't give anything of what Pee-Dee means in the song. Possibly just initials. But I introduced the card game Peedee to Britain in the 60's. It became quite popular among folkies & is still played, I understand. I learned the game from students at the University of Connecticut where it was of ancient tradition as a student card game. I've never encountered it elsewhere.

President Taylor and I did considerable research into the name, including the above-mentoned river & some other similar-sounding place names. But we never found anything.

It didn't occur to me to look in a book of card game history (there are several) until the 80's. There it was. Variously called & in many variations, it's a relatively mainstream version of Pedro (or Petey or P.D., you see) "The Game of All Fours" is a version of this, too. It was once very popular and a forerunner of Bridge & other thump games. The many versions & names show the great popularity it once enjoyed. We don't usually think of card games in considering folkprocessing but it's all the same, of course.

Anyway, maybe Little Pee-Dee was a great card player...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Mbo
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 01:32 PM

Cool song! But I thought it was going to be about the river in South Carolina...

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Abby Sale
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 12:04 PM

Yes. Keel. It even says so. Urp. Although, for what it's worth, my dictionaries claim a keelboat wouldn't have a sail.

I guess it's the same joke as for the canal boat sailors. Ah, the wild seas & stormy winds - the dangerous life of the sailor!

I like the tune, thanks. Now all I need is an accent.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Terry K
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 11:03 AM

Thanks Conrad, that solves it for me!

Terry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive)
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 08:12 PM

A place name..... my memory is blinking a bit but I think sortof that this is a Burns poem....Conrad

Hexhamshire Lass

Hey for the buff and the blue, Hey for the cap and the feather, Hey for the bonny lass true, that lives in Hexhamshire.

Chorus:

Through by the Saiby Syke, And over the moss and the mire, I'll go to see my lass, Who lives in Hexhamshire.

Her father loved her well, Her mother loved her better, I love the lass mysel', But, alas! I cannot get her.

O, This love, this love, Of this love I'm weary, Sleep I can get none, For thinking on my deary.

My heart is like to break, By bosom is on fire, So well I love the lass, That lives in Hexhamshire.

Her petticoat is silk, And plated rondwith siller, Her shoes are tied with tape; She'll wait till I go till her.

Were I where I would be, I would be beside her; But here a while I must be, Whatever may betide her.

Hey for the thick and the thin, Hey for the mud and the mire. And hey for the bonny lass, That lives in Hexhamshire.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Terry K
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 05:06 PM

Conrad

I tried to send you a personal message but the system says you don't exist!! I noted you are posting lots of Geordie songs. I have for some years wanted the lyrics of The Hexhamshire Lass. I have the Bob Davenport version and the lyrics for it are identical to the Fairports version which is in the DT. Trouble is, the TWO words I need are in the DT as a question mark - as if whoever transcribed it couldn't make it out either. It sounds like Saybe (rhymes with "maybe") Syke but that doesn't mean anything to me. Any clues?

regards, Terry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive)
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 04:06 PM

This is a Keel Boat song I believe (hauling coal on the Tyne newcastle uk.)

CB


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive)
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 12:00 PM

the tunes will be posted in an abc file. sorry to have not edited out the links. Check the web page for midi and notation- It is on this page: Enjoy! http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/5863/priests3.html

Conrad


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Abby Sale
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 11:52 AM

This is interesting. Can the midi be got to work? Is this a canal boat song? Seems like one. I ain't much up on Irish geography.


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Subject: The Little Pee-Dee
From: Conrad Bladey (Peasant- Inactive)
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 11:36 AM

The Little Pee-dee
For notation click here
For midi sound click here
 
 

It was between Hebbron an' Jarrow,
Thor cam' on a varry strang gale;
The Skipper luikt oot o' the huddock,
Cried, "Smash, man! lower the sail!
Smash, man! lower the sail!
Or else to the bottom we'll go!"
The keel an' a' hands 'ad been lost
Had it not been for Jemmy Munro

The gale it blew strang'r an' strang'r
When they com' aside the Muck hoose,
The Skipper cried oot, "Jemmy, swing'er!"
But still was as fear'd as a moose.
Pee-dee ran to clear the anchor,
"It's raffed!" reet loudly he roar'd--
They a' said the gale it wad sink her
If it wasn't suen thrawn owerboard.

The laddie ran sweatin', ran sweatin',
The laddie ran sweatin' aboot,
Till the keel she went bump agyen Jarrow,
An' three o' the bullies lap oot;
Three o' the bulies lap oot,
An' left nyen in but little Pee-dee,
Whe ran aboot stampin' an cryin'
"How, smash! Skipper--what mun aw dee?"

The Skipper ca'd oot, frae the Kee--
"Close in by the shore myek her run,
An' then thraw the painter to me,
Thou cat fyec'd son of a Gun;"
The lad threw the painter ashore,
They fastn'd her up to the Kee,
But whe knaws hoo far she'd ha'e gyen
Had it not been for little Pee-dee.
 ^^

-To the tune : "The Irish Drops of Brandy.", Source A Beuk o' Newcassel Sangs.
Joseph Cawhall,
1888
 


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