Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggoner From: JenBurdoo Date: 04 Apr 16 - 09:47 AM Thanks! Very workable! (Goes off to practice) |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggoner From: Leadfingers Date: 04 Apr 16 - 04:46 AM THE JOLLY WAGGONER C G C When first I went a-waggoning, a-waggoning did go, G C I filled my parents' hearts with sorrow, grief and woe, F C F G And many are the hardsips that we must undergo, C And sing woa! My lads, sing woa! F Drive on, my lads, I, o! C G C And who can lead a life like the jolly waggoners do? |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggoner From: JenBurdoo Date: 03 Apr 16 - 11:33 PM Does anyone have the chords to this one? |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: GUEST,Terry Hobday. Date: 02 Feb 14 - 07:11 AM I should think it would be 'chaff' before the wind. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: GUEST,Pete Foster Date: 29 Nov 12 - 03:01 PM At a folk night I went to in the sixties, the Cartford Hotel near Blackpool, the last verse was sung as: But whitsuntide is comming we'll go out on the spree With liquor and strong ale, we'll make our money flee And every lad shall take his lass and have her on his knee |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Goose Gander Date: 09 Jan 10 - 05:40 PM Thanks, Jim. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE JOLLY WAGGONER From: Jim Dixon Date: 09 Jan 10 - 02:45 PM From Ancient Poems, Ballads and Songs of the Peasantry of England by Robert Bell (London: John W. Parker and Son, 1857), page 208: THE JOLLY WAGGONER. (This country song can be traced back a century at least, but is, no doubt, much older. It is very popular in the West of England. The words are spirited and characteristic. We may, perhaps, refer the song to the days of transition, when the waggon displaced the packhorse.) 1. When first I went a-waggoning, a-waggoning did go, I filled my parents' hearts full of sorrow, grief, and woe, And many are the hardships that I have since gone through. CHORUS: And sing wo, my lads, sing wo! Drive on my lads, I-ho! And who wouldn't lead the life of a jolly waggoner? 2. It is a cold and stormy night, and I'm wet to the skin. I will bear it with contentment till I get unto the inn, And then I'll get a-drinking with the landlord and his kin. 3. Now summer it is coming. What pleasure we shall see! The small birds are a-singing on every green tree. The blackbirds and the thrushes are a-whistling merrilie. 4. Now Michaelmas is coming. What pleasure we shall find! It will make the gold to fly, my boys, like chaff before the wind, And every lad shall take his lass, so loving and so kind. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Goose Gander Date: 08 Jan 10 - 10:49 AM Looks like there's just one version from tradition in North America, sung by Petey Lease and collected by Henry Shoemaker in Mountain Minstrelsy of Pennsylvania (1931) pp.309-310. Does anyone have access to that one? |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Joe Nicholson Date: 08 Jan 10 - 10:40 AM Many were the hardships that I did undergo rhymes with filled me poor old parents hearts with sorrow grief and woe. That's how I seemed to have heard it. Joe Nicholson |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Goose Gander Date: 07 Jan 10 - 04:05 PM Just for fun, here's the Jolly Waggoner performed by the Young 'Uns at the Sedgfield Cricket Club. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Artful Codger Date: 07 Jan 10 - 03:24 AM Thanks, Reinhard! |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: GUEST,Reinhard Date: 07 Jan 10 - 02:31 AM According to folkinfo.org, Roy Palmer's words are When first I was a wagg'ner And a wagg'ner I did go, I filled my parents' hearts Full of sorrow, grief and woe; I filled my parents' hearts Full of sorrow, grief and woe. Chorus: So sing, whoa, my lads, sing whoa Drive on, my lads, heigh-o; There is none can lead a life Like we jolly wagg'ners do So sing, whoa, my lads, sing whoa Drive on, my lads, heigh-o; There is none can lead a life Like we jolly wagg'ners do It's a cold and stormy night, I was wet unto the skin; I'll bear it with contentment Till we get to the inn And then we'll get a drink With our landlord and our friends. Now summer time is coming, boys, What pleasure we should see The small birds are a-whistling On every green tree. The backbirds and the thrushes O Are whistling in the grove. Now Michaelmas is coming, boys, What pleasure we shallfind, We'll make the gold and silver fly Like chaff before the wind Then every lad shall take his lass And set her on his knee. Source: Everyman's Book of English Country Songs, Ed Roy Plamer, ISBN 0-460-12048-1 Notes: Roy Palmer altered the words of the first verse. "In verse 1, line 1 'when' has been substituted for 'oh' and in the last line of the same verse 'none' for 'more'" Collected from Mr Rose, landlord of Bridge Inn, Acle Norfolk, 14.4.1908 by Ralph Vaughan Williams, MS I 34(2) Roud: 1088 (Search Roud index at VWML) Take Six Laws: Child: |
Subject: RE: Jolly Waggonner From: Artful Codger Date: 07 Jan 10 - 02:21 AM Can someone post the words as given in Palmer's English Country Songs? Or did he get them from the Watersons or Walter Pardon? |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Goose Gander Date: 07 Jan 10 - 12:14 AM THE JOLLY WAGGONER When first I went a-waggoning, a-wagging did go I filled my parents hearts with grief, with sorrow, care and woe And many are the hardships that I have since gone through Sing woah, sing woah Drive on, my lads, hi ho Who wouldn't lead a life like we jolly waggoners do? Now winter is a-coming on, much hardship it will bring We'll jog along our weary way until we reach the inn We'll sit down by the old inn fire with landlord and his kin Sing woah . . . Now springtime is a-coming on, how pleasant it will be The songbirds sing so loud and clear from every greenwood tree And every lad will take a lass and jog her on his knee Sing woah . . . Now summer is a coming on, we'll pleasure also find We'll make the gold to fly, my boys, like chaff before the wind And then return back home again to wife and children kind Sing woah . . . From the singing of Walter Pardon, from 'A World Without Horses' CD (Topic Records). |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: GUEST,s.willis@virgin.net Date: 11 Jul 00 - 04:50 PM Garry Gillard, who I help occasionally with transcription - particularly in relation to my native north Yorkshire dialect - has alerted me to this thread. The disputed word in the last verse is definitely "chaff", but Mike Waterson uses the north and east Yorkshire pronunciation "kaff". Steve Willis s.willis@virgin.net |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 11 Jul 00 - 12:09 AM And thanks to you, Garry, for your sterling work. All the best Malcolm |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Garry Gillard Date: 10 Jul 00 - 10:37 PM This is an exhilarating moment for me: the first discussion in the Mudcat Cafe of one of my several hundred transcriptions.
Thanks VERY much to Jeri for your kind remarks. I'm glad you like it: it represents many hours days weeks and months of my life.
Thanks to Malcolm Douglas for your comments. I remember thinking about "woe" (which is in the first stanza) and "whoa" (which is contradicted by the rest of the line). I rather like BigMalc's suggestion of "wo", actually, but I've followed the erudite MD and put "whoa".
As for "waggon": the COED prefers "wagon", but I've followed Topic's editor, out of respect.
cheers, Garry
Jolly WaggonersWhen first I went a-waggoning, a-waggoning did go
When it's belting down with rain, my lads, I get wetted to the skin
Well, things is greatly altered now and waggons few are seen
Ay, things is greatly altered now but then what can us do
Well, Martinmas is coming, lads, what pleasures we shall see
Acknowledgements
Transcribed by Garry Gillard. Corrections following discussion in the Mudcat Café. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Stewie Date: 09 Jul 00 - 07:08 PM As Malcolm said, it sounds like he's singing 'calf' in the last stanza, but surely it must mean 'chaff' which, according to definition 5 in the Maquarie Dictionary, is also a colloquial term for 'money'. --Stewie. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: phil jl Date: 09 Jul 00 - 06:43 PM The words to the last verse that I recall are:
Well Martinmas is coming lads and soon we'll have a spree When ever my family get together this song is invariably sung – we even recorded it (along with 10 or so other favorites) for my father on his 75th birthday a few years ago. None of us have experienced the life of a waggoner – it's just a great song. Phil^^ |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: GUEST,BIG Malc Date: 08 Jul 00 - 07:10 PM Many thanks to you both..... what a small world we live in Lyrics next day... marvellous thanks again!!!!
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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jolly Waggonner From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 08 Jul 00 - 10:50 AM That would be "Like chaff before the wind". It certainly sounds like "caff" or "calf" on the recording, so I checked with another version (in Roy Palmer's English Country Songs) so as to be sure. I'd be inclined to "whoa" rather than "woe", since horses are involved. "Waggon(er)" is an alternative spelling, not used so much nowadays though still current. Malcolm |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE JOLLY WAGGONERS^^ From: Jeri Date: 08 Jul 00 - 07:34 AM The following is from Garry Gillard's Watersons Page, which, IMO, is incredibly well done and a great resource. Maybe someone can help with the "(?)" in the last verse? (Is spelling it "waggoner" instead of "wagoner" a UK thing? An old way of spelling? Just mis-spelling? I'm not being difficult, just curious.) THE JOLLY WAGGONERS (see corrections below)
When first I went a-waggoning, a-waggoning did go
chorus
When it's belting down with rain my lads I get wetted to the skin chorus
Well things is greatly altered now and wagons few are seen chorus
Ay things is greatly altered now but then what can us do chorus
Well Martinmas is coming lads what pleasures we shall see chorus^^ |
Subject: Jolly Waggonner From: GUEST,Big Malc Date: 08 Jul 00 - 12:24 AM Hi, I am trying to find 'The Jolly Waggonner' a song about the joys of the open road in a horse and cart. Chorus: Sing Wo me lads sing Wo Ride on me lads ride on Who wouldn't be for all the world a jolly waggonner Any help appreciated |
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