a new kind of piece

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 19 Aug 00 - 10:27 AM

Thanks for the link Roger and I'm sorry I missed your previous post in this thread - don't know how I managed that as I thought I was keeping an eye on this thread! My timing is a little different on Sonny's to the example in the Whistle Workshop but all the main notes are the same.

As for the how did I do the link. I'm not sure where you want me to start so I will go through the whole process I used.

1. I used Windows Sound Recorder to record the piece.

2. I used Real Producer to convert the wav file to a Real Audio File. I could have recorded directly into Real Producer but I have a tendency to pause for a while before I start playing and I can edit that out with Sound Recorder.

3. I used a program called Cute FTP to transfer the Real Audio File to my free web space. Cute FTP is one of several programs that allow you to use a Windows Explorer type interface to transfer files to and from the Internet and otherwise manage them and is easy to use.

4. I made the "blue clicky thing" which I see you know how to do.

Jon

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 19 Aug 00 - 08:29 AM

Visit Dave's site for the tunes and just coz its a good site
The Whistle Workshop

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 10:26 AM

blowhards !!!
not quite as posh sounding as flautists I like it!
I missed Jon playing sonny's on the Hear Me. Any chance you could put a link in like you did for the Donegal in the other thread jon? - how do you do that anyway?
Roger

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 05:11 PM

I play recorders and also a wooden flute in D. Since my hands are small, I had a repairwoman put a key on the third hole from the top (the key that turns an A into a G.) She had to modify an oboe key to do it. It was kind of expensive, but still cost less than one trip to the doctor to check out an injured hand.

The instrument is temperamental-- doesn't want to play some days. But still I wouldn't give it up.

I have a friend who plays silver flute, and we get some nice duets going, because his instrument excels at high notes, and mine loves the low ones.

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: BeauDangles
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:20 PM

Cool! Lots of us blowhards in the Mudcat! Sorry, Dave, but I am not equipped presently to be able to listen to files. The computer I use at work doesn't have a sound card or something. And I don't have a computer at home presently. One day soon,I hope...

Any other windbags out there have any rouble with their wrists? Any solutions. I am trying som new postures that seemto be helping some (it's amazing the bad habits we slip into!). Ah, but that is another thread subject, entirely isn't it?

Beau

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: alison
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 12:56 AM

yep another flautist (amongst other things)... I play concert, wooden (with & without keys) and last night was given a set of 6 bamboo Chinese ones....... which I'll be playing as soon as I figure them out

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 09 Aug 00 - 03:48 PM

Thanks everyone
I will try that leeneia and try noteworthy too
At the moment I am struggling with flutes too - my first a 'silver (plated) flute', the next a nice keyless wooden D and my latest and most difficult a 5 keyed wooden D.
Roger

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: GUEST,Dave Auty
Date: 09 Aug 00 - 03:10 PM

Whoops! try that again EnchantedValley

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: GUEST,Dave Auty
Date: 09 Aug 00 - 03:00 PM

Hi Beau,

I play the flute the metal concert variety and find it difficult to play Irish stuff (although the slow airs are really nice. I bought a student Irish flute (Tony Dixon)and am just getting a grip on it. If you want to hear a tune on my flute go here href="http://www.whistleworkshop.co.uk/enchanted_valley.htm">Enchanted Valley Thats presuming you have RealAudio.

Dave

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: BeauDangles
Date: 09 Aug 00 - 01:43 PM

Hi Leeneia,

Nice to hear from another flute player. Wooden or metal? I play a keyless Patrick Olwell model (still waiting for the keyed section!). Man, do I love it! It is really punchy in the low-end, and stays intune all of the way up. I can't wait until the keyed section is finished, so I can traide this in. Just thinking of all of the key signatures I'll be able to plan in finally just gets me all misty eyed!

As for playing those low notes on the flute, I have found that finding an alternate melody to play for those few notes is very fun and can really add something to the piece when playing in ensemble fashion. Perfectly traditional as well. An even more traditional way of bypassing this difficulty is to briefly play few notes before the offending section up an octave, and then play the low notes as if they were up an octave as well. This is a little tricky, and each tune has to be handled differently. Sometimes it works (i.e. sounds good); sometimes it just sounds...artificial.

Any other flute players out there?

BeauDangles

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 09 Aug 00 - 12:10 AM

Well, Roger from Sheffield, first you decide how far you want to go when transposing. I, for example, changed that mazurka from G to D for better playing on the flute, which abhors low notes. You can do this for free by writing the notes of the old scale above the new:

G A B C D E F# G D E F#G A B C# D

Then every D in the old key becomes an A in the new. And F# becomes a C#, etc. An E minor chord becomes a B minor. A C minor diminished 9th becomes a G min dim 9th, etc.

Obviously, if you do this very much, you will want to get a program to print your stuff. I have a little keyboard by MusicStar (cost abt $60) and a program called EZPIANO which has its quirks but cost less than $100. (don't know if it's still around) It came from a Canadian named Andy Kula

I absolutely love finding and printing music, which I then project on the wall of my living room when my musical friends come over. Ours would be a better world if more people did this kind of thing.

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: Helen
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 08:11 PM

Roger, Noteworthy is a good program - I tried the "30 day" trial program for a lot longer than that and resolved to buy the program as soon as my finances got a bit healthier. I finally bought it a few months ago.

The trial program does almost everything that the full version does, including printing out the sheet music.

Helen

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: GUEST,Dave Auty
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 04:41 PM

Roger,

Try Noteworthy This is a good music program and it is just a matter of a mouse click for transposing. Just write in the tune and go to the transpose button. Noteworthy do a 30 day evaluation program.

Dave.

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: GUEST,da
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 04:31 PM

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 04:00 PM

So how do I transpose it?
It is one note lower than I can play
Once upon a time I had a trial music program that transposed things really easily
Any ideas?
Roger

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 12:13 PM

Sonny's was also one of my first tunes and I love it. Also, I would second the Fiddle Sticks reccomendation.

Jon

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: jeffp
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 11:52 AM

I'd like to put in a strong recommendation for the CD noted at the site Alison made a blue clicky to: Fiddle Sticks. It's from a festival of Donegal style fiddling and really rocks!

jeffp

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 10:51 AM

Another nice one is Jackie Donnan's Mazurka.

Peace

mcmoo

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: alison
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 10:17 AM

If you want to find lots of tunes of many different styles and nationalities try Richard Robinsons tune book

he lists them by name, country, type, time signature, and key signature..... have fun

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: BeauDangles
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 09:57 AM

Thanks for finding this thread Alison.

Another cool mazurka is called Sonny's Mazurka. It was one of the first tunes I ever REALLY learned. It has a dear place in my heart to this day.

BeauD

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: alison
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 09:57 AM

nice tune.... can be found here

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: alison
Date: 08 Aug 00 - 09:52 AM

refresh

Subject: RE: a new kind of piece
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 06 Aug 00 - 10:13 AM

Known also as "Proinsias Ó Mhaonaigh's Mazurka #2", or "Vincent Campbell's Mazurka #2"; pretty much everybody who plays the tune learnt it (at whatever remove) from one or other of them.  I'm rather fond of it, too.  The Mazurka arrived in Ireland probably around the 1830s, and was very popular at house dances in the North.  You can find more of them at  J C's Tunefinder  -search for mazurka.

Malcolm

Subject: delightfully different
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 11:37 PM

Well, y'all, I have to tell you about a new piece of music I have just prepared for our session. It is called "A Donegal Mazurka," and you can find it at celticmusic.com under Tunes. For once it is a dance tune which is neither a jig nor a reel! I had to listen to the audio clip about six times before I got the hang of it, but now, as they said in My Fair Lady, "I think she's got it!"

I think the gang will go wild.