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Lyr Add: A Soft Day (W M Letts/C V Stanford) |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: Liz the Squeak Date: 13 Jan 01 - 12:32 AM CV STanford is best known for composing religious music, such as the settings for the Magnificat, Nunc Dimitis and other canticles.... I've sung lots of them, they are great for sopranos, but not nice for altos.... LTS |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Date: 12 Jan 01 - 03:35 PM Thanks, McGrath. Must keep an eye out for the biography. Regards |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 12 Jan 01 - 09:19 AM That's the great thing about looking for things, Sarah you find other things you weren't looking for.
Yes, Martin, it is a bit different, which is why it stuck in my mind as being by him. Where I found it is in a little book of words published I think by Walton in Dublin sometime in the 1950s or so. The cover's gone and so is the title page so I can't be sure.
I'd trust them to have it right though, because it starts with "A Soldier's Song"(sic) in both English and Irish, and has Fairyland just next to Peadar Kearney's "Three-coloured Ribbon", and a few pages away from "Michael Dwyer" and "Whack Fol the Diddle", so they knew their Peadar Kearney. Which you'd expect, if I'm right and it was pubished by Waltons, since Martin Walton was interned with Peadar.
There's a life of Kearney by Seamus de Burca called "The Soldier's Song", published by P.J.Bourke in Dublin in 1957, but I don't think that's got a mention of this one in it. What it does have though is a set of songs and poems, some of which I've not seen elsewhere, including an extra for the "Soldier's Song" about the North. And there's a lively one about a singing pub, "Down in the Village", with the chorus:
Heigh ho! slan to the revilry, Shouting and drinking and singing so merrily Red nights we never again shall see Down in the village we tarried so long. |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: Sarah2 Date: 11 Jan 01 - 10:41 PM Well, three things: 1) Refreshing to give CarolC another smile. 2) McGrath, as promised, I spent about four hours at the downtown library today, wading through Irish poetry anthologies -- well, okay, maybe I was wallowing in some of them -- for "Stephen's Green." No luck; I'd probably have gotten more forward in the search by working on the shelves in my own library, so I could put those books away. (Although I've been told by me mum that it actually might be in one of those footlockers in the garage, since it was from my father's libaray -- gads, that's a chore a'waitin'!) I may have to stop and just start tossing books around to find it here -- it's really beginning to niggle. 3) However, MartinRyan, I found some of her stuff that seemed perfectly suited to put to music: "Glorny's Weir," certainly. But also "Blessings," "My Blessing Be on Waterford," and even (if you could get that Roger Miller-ish odd rhythm going) "Spring, the Travelling Man." Might have a go at it, myself... Sarah |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: MartinRyan Date: 08 Jan 01 - 05:11 PM McGrath it's a bit different from his usual stuff alright! Got a source? Regards |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: CarolC Date: 08 Jan 01 - 03:42 PM I apologize for butting into this discussion where I clearly don't belong, but I just want to say this... Every time I read the title of this thread when I'm scanning down the list of thread titles on the forum home page, it makes me feel good inside. Carol |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 08 Jan 01 - 01:48 PM I wake to the thrush revealing His joy on a dewy morn, And soft through my window stealing, The scent of the flowering thorn. I haste to share in the splendour Of water and flower and tree, And up from my heart I render, My praise, oh my God to Thee.
And little children straying
Where beauty has birth and being -
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Subject: Lyr Add: FAIRYLAND (Peadar Kearney) From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 08 Jan 01 - 01:43 PM That should have of course been Peadar Kearney, who wrote The Soldiers Song, and a lot of other very good somgs too.
I think I left some brain-cells back in the 20th Century...
But I've laid my hands on his Stephen's Green poem/song, and I'm glad I have. Here it is:
I wake to the thrush revealing |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 08 Jan 01 - 09:22 AM THe Margaret Drabble Companion to English Literature doesn't give her a mention.But then it doesn't mention Patrick Pearse, or James Plunkett, or Patrick Kearney - even though its definition of English Literature includes Irish and American. I'm glad I only bought it in a jumble sale, I'd be highly indignant if I'd paid full price for it. It's got masses of gaps. |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: MartinRyan Date: 07 Jan 01 - 06:45 PM There's no mention of Winifred Letts in the dictionary, interestingly enough. I occasionally see "Songs of Leinster" in the secondhand bookshops - have almost gotten out of the habit of picking it up to see if there's anything singable! Regards |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: Alice Date: 07 Jan 01 - 06:39 PM Thanks, everyone. |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: MartinRyan Date: 07 Jan 01 - 06:10 PM Stanford (1852-1924) was born in Dublin. Choral scholar at Cambridge. Eventually professor of music at Cambridge. Prolific composer. Edited the Petrie Collection of Irish Music . Among others, Ralph Vaughan WIlliams and Gustav Holst studied under him. Ashes are buried in Westminster Abbey. Regards p.s. notes abstracted from Dictionary of Irish Biography. |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: Den Date: 06 Jan 01 - 04:36 PM I have to agree with McGrath here Rich and Rare is a beautiful book for anyone interested in Irish songs and poetry. Den |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: GUEST,Sarah Date: 06 Jan 01 - 04:31 PM Sorry, McGrath, I can only recall the first lines, which you can read in Bartlett's anyway:
That God once loved a garden I think it's in The Spires of Oxford volume of her stuff, which is around here somewhere. But the library's a mess -- am constructing a built-in bookshelf of one wall and the books are in stacks EVERYWHERE. If no one beats me to it, I'll try to get to the city library next week and get it all. Even if other lines come to me, I never memorized it, and you'd rather have the correct poem, wouldn't you? Sarah |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:33 PM "A fine soft day" would normally mean it was raining, but not hard enough to keep indoors, if you had some reason to be out of doors. It sums up a cheerful attitude in the face of adversity. So it's also used as a joke when its raining cats and dogs.
"A fine moist day" I've also heard sometimes, meaning a litle bit wetter than that.
The poem/song is included in a fine anthology called "Rich and Rare", edited by Sean MacMahon in 1984. (He has four drips in the last line first verse as well as in the second, which sounds more likely to me.)
The book has a potted biography of the writer: Winifred Letts was born in Dublin in 1882, educated at Alexandra College, and practised as a masseuse. She contributed several plays to the early Abbey repertoire, notably "The Challenge" (1909) and wrote reminiscences about life in Leinster called "Knockmaroon" (1933). She married WHF Verschoyle. She is mainlt remembered today for her lyric "A Soft Day" which was printed in her first collection of poetry, "Songs from Leinster". She died in 1950.
But let's have that Letts poem about Stephen's Green as well, Sarah. There's a lovely little poem about Stephen's Green which I can't lay my hands on, but I think it's by Patrick Kearney who wrote The Soldier's Song - about being born in the heart of the city, but there's fairyland on the doorstep, in Stephen's Green. |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: Alice Date: 06 Jan 01 - 01:57 PM Thanks, Sorcha. Now on to learning and recording it. |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: Sorcha Date: 06 Jan 01 - 02:31 AM This site Click says it was set by Sir Charles Villiers Stanford who died in 1924, so I would guess it is PD. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: A SOFT DAY (W M Letts/C V Stanford) From: Alice Date: 06 Jan 01 - 12:19 AM A SOFT DAY music C. V. Stanford, lyrics W. M. Letts
A soft day, thank God!
A soft day, thank God!
A soft day is an Irish expression that is not familiar to Americans. The music to this song doesn't really sound traditional, and neither does the poem, so I guessed it was a song from about the 1940's or '50's.... maybe not? I still need to know if it is in the public domain. Alice |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: GUEST,Sarah Date: 05 Jan 01 - 11:48 PM If it's the same W.M. Letts, she wrote a neat poem about St. Stephen's Green... Sure, post that rascal. I'd like to read it. Sarah |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: Alice Date: 05 Jan 01 - 11:44 PM Mary O'Hara recorded it in the 1950's. I have the lyrics from her book, Song For Ireland, and the sound of the song made me think it was more contemporary. I didn't realize it would be that old. Does anyone want the lyrics? I'll post them. |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: GUEST,Sarah Date: 05 Jan 01 - 11:04 PM Barnes & Noble rare & second-hand books lists a Sir Charles V. Stanford by John F. Porte. It was published in London in 1921, which sounds the correct time frame W. M. Letts. It's listed as: "154pp. 8vo Black & white frontis photograph + occasional musical notation. Blue cloth. Title page lightly yellowed by frontis tissue guard, binding a bit stiff." So you ought to be able to get more on both of these from a library. Good luck. Sarah |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: katlaughing Date: 05 Jan 01 - 10:55 PM I found one place that said she was born in 1887 with the death date left blank; she'd be pretty old now, eh?! Saw Soft Day listed in British composer John Raynor's book of over 600 songs, but the online info was just the listing and that he used it in a song cycle in 1950. Good luck, kat |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: GUEST,Sarah Date: 05 Jan 01 - 10:47 PM Okay, off the top of Bartlett's we have Winifred Mary Letts, poetess, born 1882, died ??. I have vague impressions of information that she was a) related to Charles Dickens and b) Irish. I'll swear to neither, though -- but it ought to be a starting place. Lemme go look for some Stanford info... Sarah |
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Subject: RE: A Soft Day From: GUEST,Sarah Date: 05 Jan 01 - 10:29 PM Winnifred? I do know she was some sort of author(ess). I ought to look into this for you, I guess; Letts was my maiden name. Sarah |
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Subject: A Soft Day From: Alice Date: 05 Jan 01 - 10:21 PM I have the lyrics to A Soft Day and that the tune is by C. V. Stanford, lyrics by W. M. Letts. Does anyone have more information regarding this song? Date of publication, more info about Letts and Stanford? |
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