Lyr Req: The Barley Grain

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 09:19 AM

BTW - thanks to Lin an NWC of this has been sent to Joe.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 08:37 AM

Sean - would you like a jpg of the dots?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: SeanM
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 12:07 AM

I's got a rock for a computer...

Midi crashes it, as far as I can tell. I can't even run RealAudio...

*sigh*

M

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 17 Jul 01 - 10:11 PM

SeanM--

To my ear, the two tunes are not at all similar. If you want to PM me your email address, I can send you a midi file of the version I posted earlier.

Lin

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: SeanM
Date: 17 Jul 01 - 01:16 AM

Interesting...

Not that I'm a professional at this, but the chorus sounds like a derivative of "Juice of the Barley" using nonsense instead of the original. Is the tune for "The Barley Grain" similar, or does the resemblance stop at the chorus? I can't quite fit the line into the tune as I know it, but that doesn't mean that the properly inebriated would have a problem.

M

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 01:12 AM

Hi Malcolm,

Since I know Joe and MMario have been working to add tunes to the lyrics in the DT, I thought perhaps I should wait until the song is harvested to send a midi. I'll PM one or the other of them and ask what they'd prefer me to do. Thanks for the suggestion about Alan's site.

The quote from Sing Out! is accurate, although I certainly understand your reasoning. It might be clearer if they'd left out the comma after "Ireland".

Lin

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 09:12 AM

I mostly use  Google Advanced Search

There is a reasonably comprehensive set of links to other examples here and elsewhere in this thread:  Penguin: John Barleycorn

I'll add a link to this thread.  It's puzzling that Sing Out should say "Scotland and Ireland, as well as in England"; where John Barleycorn is concerned, "England and Scotland, as well as in Ireland" would have been more accurate.

A midi would be good; you could send it in the first instance to Alan of Oz for the  Mudcat Midi Pages.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: nutty
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 04:19 AM

Thanx everyone ... yes I definitely think that this version should be in the DT. I think it's great.

Malcolm .. I wish I knew how you did it .I'd already done an internet search for the lyrics before I posted and I came up with nothing .... Thanx again

Subject: ADD: THE BARLEY GRAIN ^^
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 03:20 AM

Hi Nutty--

The song is on one of the old Barley Bree tapes...I'm sorry, I can't recall which one, nor can I find the blasted thing to give you the name of the tape. HOWEVER, The Collected Reprints from Sing Out! The Folk Song Magazine, Vols. 7-12 (1964-1973), ISBN: 1-881322-00-9, published by the Sing Out Corporation, P.O. Box 5253, Bethlehem, PA 18015-0253 has this to say on page 58:

"In the seemingly eternal war between temperance and moonshine, the best songs certainly seem to be on the side of the sinners, proving, once again, that 'the Devil has the best tunes.' This lusty classic is certainly a case in point. Popularized in broadside form as early as 1620, this tale of John Barleycorn's 'life cycle' is probably even older than that. Over the years, the song became popular in Scotland and Ireland, as well as in England--and eventually found its way to North America. Below is O.J. Abbott's version of the song which he sings in rollicking style on the Folkways' LP, Irish and British Songs from the Ottawa Valley (FM4052). Jean Ritchie recorded a group of patrons at a Lincolnshire inn singing the song for her album Field Trip England (Folkways FW8871), and A.L. Lloyd recorded a version which he leearned from a traditional singer in his album of English Drinking Songs (Riverside RLP12-618)."

(NOTE TO MUDELVES: If this needs to be added to the DT, I can send a midi as well. Please let me know via Personal Pages if that's needed--Lin)

BARLEY GRAIN

Three men went to Derahatay
To sell a load of rye;
They shouted up and they shouted down
The barley grain should die.

CHORUS:
Tiree iggery airy and tiree iggery aye;
Tiree iggery airy and the barley grain for me.

Then the farmer came with a big plow,
He plowed me under the sod.
The winter it being overrun,
The summer coming on.

(Chorus)

Then the reaper came with a sharp hook,
He made me no reply;
He cut me by the whisker
And cut me above the thigh.

(Chorus)

Then the binder come with her neat thumb,
She bound me all around;
And then they hired a handy man
To stand me on the ground.

(Chorus)

Then the pitcher came with a steel fork,
He pierced it through me heart;
And like a rover, a highway man,
They bound me on the cart.

(Chorus)

Then they drove me to the barn,
And spread me out on the floor;
They left me there for a space of time,
And my beard grew through the floor.

(Chorus)

Then the thrasher came with a big flail,
He swore he'd break me bones;
But the miller he used me worse,
He ground me between two stones.

(Chorus)

Then they took me out of that,
And threw me into a well;
They left me there for three long weeks,
And me belly began to swell.

(Chorus)

Then they sold me to the brewer,
And he brewed me on a pan;
But when I got into the jug,
I was the strongest man.

(Chorus)

Then they drank me in the kitchen,
And they drank me in the hall;
But the drunkard used me worse,
He lashed me agin the wall.

(Chorus)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 08:56 PM

So far as I can tell, it's a Canadian variant (possibly via Ireland) of John Barleycorn: a set of lyrics is at  The Donnellys by James Reaney.  I don't know how close it might be to what you're looking for, but it's a start.  There's a recording available on Sandy Paton's  Folk Legacy  label:

The Barley Grain for Me  -Margaret Christl and lan Robb with Grit Laskin.  There's a short sound sample there, too.

Subject: THE BARLEY GRAIN
From: nutty
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 06:55 PM

Could anyone please supply me with the words and background information on the traditional song THE BARLEY GRAIN FOR ME .... I have tried the DT but could not find it there