Lyr Req: Got No Sugar Baby Now

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: fat B****rd
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 06:33 AM

I have thisby Maria Muldaur on her Waitress in a Doughnut Shop LP with Doc Watson on guitar. Lovely.......

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: dafydd2
Date: 02 Jan 03 - 08:20 AM

doc watson recorded another(and very good) version of this song

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 09:49 PM

Also worth mentioning here is that Frank does this on fretless banjo as he did many songs, but this one really highlights the sound well.

There is a very close relationship (variant perhaps) of this song made famous by Mississippi John Hurt....The tab and lyrics are HERE.

Spaw

Subject: Lyr Add: GOT NO SUGAR BABY NOW (Frank Proffitt)
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 07:43 PM

Got No Sugar Baby Now
....as sung by Frank Proffitt

Well, I've got no sugar baby now,
I've got no honey baby now.
It's all I can do; it's all I can say.
Send you to your Mama next payday,
Send you to your Mama next payday.

Well, I've drawed in my check,
Give her every dime I made.
What more could a poor boy do?
What more could a poor boy do?

Well, I've said all I can say,
I've done all I can do.
I'll send you to your Mama next payday.
I'll send you to your Mama next payday.

Well, I've got no sugar baby now,
I've got no honey baby now.
It's all I can do; it's all I can say.
Send you to your Mama next payday,
Send you to your Mama next payday.

Got no use for a red rocking chair
I've got no honey baby now.
I've got no honey baby now.

I've done all I can do,
I've said all I can say.
I'll send you to your Mama next payday.
I'll send you to your Mama next payday.

Lord I'm goin' where them chilly winds don't blow.
I'm going where them chilly winds don't blow.

I've done all I can do,
I've said all I can say.
I'll send you to your Mama next payday.
I'll send you to your Mama next payday.

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Spaw

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 06:52 PM

Frank Proffitt does this on the cassette tape available from Sandy at Folk-Legacy Records. I can think of no better authority than Sandy Paton, and I copy a portion of his liner notes here:

Clarence Ashley had a song much like this one, which he called "Honey Babe Blues." Bascom Lamar Lunsford had it as "Red Apple Juice," and Charlie Monroe recorded it as "Red Rocking Chair." I have not found the song among other singers in Frank Proffitt's immediate area, although it has been widely collected in Appalachia. Recent recordings have made it quite well known in urban folksong circles.

Sandy also tends to disallow a relationship speculated by others to Child 76, "The Lass of Roch Royal."

Do you want the lyrics as per Frank Proffitt?

Spaw

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 05:25 PM

That turned up several things, among them, Lonesome Road Blues (ain't gonna be treated this a-way) and a Canned Heat song, but none had the honey babe phrase.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 05:23 PM

The JSD Band - thats it(I think)!! I checked out Red Apple Juice, Sorcha, but its still not he one thats currently driving me crazy. And I dont think its Red Rocking Chair either. There´s a verse that goes something like "Going where the water tastes like wine" which is repeated a few times. Maybe that helps.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: Dani
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:26 PM

Or is it "Red Rocking Chair",

"and I ain't got no sugar baby now"

I don't have even a second to look it up now, but didn't we just have a thread on Jimmie Rodgers? That might be it.

Dani

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: GUEST,RolyH
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 02:05 PM

I think there is a version on the 1972 JSD band album .

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 01:45 PM

Hey, guys...it's Red Apple Juice. Supersearch won't let me in right now, so here it is at the numachi mirror site:Red Apple Juice

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: john c
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 01:34 PM

Sorry Allan! Its not Rain and Snow - I know that one (and the words!) but the tune is pretty similar. Cant say that Hickory Wind sounds familiar, apart from an old Gram Parsons song.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: Allan C.
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 01:24 PM

My problem is that I have an unlabeled tape that has two different albums on it. Pentangle is one of them. (My other problem is that my memory is totally gone!) Now that I think of it, the line, "Ain't got not honey baby now" might come from "Red Apple Juice" by Hickory Wind. Does that ring a bell?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: Allan C.
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 01:11 PM

Well, thanks a lot, John! Now I have it stuck in my mind too!

I think, though, that it may be from a Pentangle album. I can't recall the lyrics to "Rain and Snow", but I am guessing that it might be the cut that contains those words.

Subject: Aint got no honey babe no more
From: john c
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 10:14 AM

Lord knows where I heard this but the tunes been stuck in my mind for years - its a sort of minor blues. Anybody help with the words??