BS: c s i

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Dec 01 - 12:36 AM

Thanks, Helen.

AliK, thanks for the reminder of Caleb Carr! I wish he would write some more. I loved those two!

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: AliUK
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 06:48 PM

I remember reading Red Dragon many years ago, and was extremely disappointed by the movie Manhunter, which seemed to lose a lot of the subtelties of the novel ( but that's what happens with movies) especially the feeling of claustrophobia that Harris managed to get into both Red Dragon and the book Silence of the Lambs. The only other writer I think has come close to that is Caleb Carr in The Alienist and Angel of Darkness. If you are into forensics and psychology in your whodunnits then search those two out. Another front runner for me is Barbera Hambly and her Free Man of Colo(u)r. Great New Orleans stuff. I don't know why but these turn of the (20th) century crime thrillers seem to please me more than most.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: Helen
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 06:04 PM

kat,

The movies are: Silence of the Lambs, then Hannibal. And I did a search yesterday on the net and found lots of rumours about a re-make of Red Dragon, with more of a story line around Hannibal Lecter, which was only alluded to in the book (Red Dragon) & the movie (Manhunter).

I also read a review of Manhunter which reminded me why I liked it so much. It's very well done, very subtle. So a re-make may move right away from that subtlety and play on the loosely related "sub-plot" and not on the real plot of the book - because the Hannibal stuff can be sensationalised, and sensationalism makes money, especially in the movies.

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: 53
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 08:23 PM

i;m glad to see that you guys like the show, i think that its a superb put together show. BOB

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 07:12 PM

I will try to catch it, Bob, thanks.

AliUK, do you mean the followup to Silence of the Lambs? It was just named "Hannibal." I haven't seen either one of those as they seemed too gross.

Helen, is Red Dragon connected to what AliUK is talking about? It sounds good.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: AliUK
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 06:49 PM

That's the Movie where Brian "whatsisname"played Hannibal Lecter. The rumour is they're going to re-film it with Anthony Hopkins as Lecter again.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: Helen
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 06:31 PM

The link with William Petersen is that, as a result of my interest in forensics, I read Thomas Harris's novels and one of the best, IMHO, is called The Red Dragon, which was filmed as Manhunter. Petersen played the lead character, i.e. the criminal/forensic profiler.

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 05:31 PM

Cortical Strain Injury. You get it if you watch too much telly.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: AliUK
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 05:19 PM

CSI? I watch it all the time, its on Warner Channel out here in Brazil, though I got the bug during my stay in London earlier this year. Great show.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: Kim C
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 04:18 PM

I like it. I love William Peterson!

Crossing Jordan is pretty good too but I don't catch it all the time.

West Wing is my favorite serious show and I have the VCR programmed to tape it when I'm not home.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 03:59 PM

I watch it when I can, I like the show, too.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: 53
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 03:08 PM

try to catch C S I i think you'll enjoy it. BOB

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 02:44 AM

LOL, CR! Good ones!!

We don't watch it, but we have enjoyed a new one on Monday, if I remember right, which must be similar, called Crossing Jordan. The main character is an unconventional woman coroner in Boston. It's got a pretty good ensemble cast and the "science" they bring into it is fun.

Anyone see tonight's interview with the woman who is the foremost author on forensics and serial killers and how she spent $4 million of her own money investigating who Jack the Ripper was, using forensics? It was a little fluffy and rushed, but interesting. She is 100% sure she's identified him as a famous painter, Sickert(sp).

The best thing we watch now is The Education of Max Bickford produced by and starring Richard Dreyfuss, on Sunday evenings. I cannot recommend it highly enough. It is intelligent, witty, takes on thorny issues, reminds me a bit of Mudcat actually.

kat-laugh-in **BG**

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 02:10 AM

No problem, Sorcha. I understand it's on just before "O Car 54, Where Art Thou?" and right after "This Old Greenhaus" and "Rowan And MMario's Katlaugh-in."

-chanteyranger

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: Helen
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 11:47 PM

Yes,

I watched it every week when it was on here in Oz. I'm a sucker for forensic shows.

When I worked in the Cataloguing section of the public library - a couple of decades ago - I was given a huge load of second hand books to catalogue, all on criminology & murder & forensics & stuff like that. My first reaction was that I had no interest in any of it, and "Why me??!!"

Once I started having a proper look at them I found most of them fascinating, on a number of levels. I was interested in the psychology side - the "why would someone do something like that?" angle - and also the scientific analysis of the evidence.

So now, I satisfy my interest by watching the tv show like CSI, & Silent Witness (British), & that one with John Hannah - the Scottish bloke who played the lead opposite Gwyneth Paltrow in Sliding Doors.

I sometimes wonder whether I could have done forensics as a job.

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: IvanB
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 11:42 PM

Bob, it's one of two programs I watch. My wife and I see it faithfully almost every Thursday.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 10:57 PM

"CatspawSorchaInObu"???? uhhhh, uhhh, you are going to have to ecludiate here, chanteyranger.....I'm lost. Like, um, like, totally at C..........OH! nevermind......I get it........slow on the uptake tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: 53
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 10:33 PM

that's bullshit.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 10:31 PM

It stands for Catspaw Sorcha InOBU.

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: 53
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 10:28 PM

it is a t v show about a las vegas crime scene team, and it comes on thursday night at 9;00 est you ought to watch it one night, i think that you might like it ,it's about the only show that glenda and i watch. BOB

Subject: RE: BS: c s i
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 10:25 PM

Is it TV? Don't watch much TV. What is it?

Subject: c s i
From: 53
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 10:23 PM

have any mudcatters watched c s i?