Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: GUEST,Bugsy at Work
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 04:19 AM

Nice song - Nice Guy

CHeers

Bugsy

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: MMario
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 11:31 AM

chords are at http://www.mcs.vuw.ac.nz/~lindsay/NZ-Folk/ginrasp.html

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 11:26 AM

Always love to hear the background on a song, esp. from you, Bob! Thank you, that is grand!!

Subject: Lyr Add: THE RUM AND RASPBERRY
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 06:02 AM

G'day again,

Well, it's obvious I have not listened to this for some time! It was on a Wongawilli cassette I bought about 12 years ago and, although it is on the Musica Pangaea compilation, in their Undiscovered Australia series ... and on a new compilation CD from Wongawilli called After the Tradition, that they just gave me for review ... I have a sufficiently faint recall of the actual words to miss the fact that the very first word in the title is different ... good working bushman's rum ... not your effete Kiwi's gin! As well, there are a lot of changes, in locale, mostly, taking it to the Kiandra Gold Rush of the early 1860s. (BTW: Does anyone have an accurate date for Martin Curtis's composition? This adaptation was, apparently, collected at Australian National Folk Festival - held in Maleny in 1989.

The notes in the Musica PangaeaCD Wongawilli - Australian Tradition say: "Rum and Raspberry (Traditional)

Set in the last century, this song documents the hardships of mining in the Kiandra area of New South Wales during its substantial, though short-lived, gold rush. It was collected from an unknown performed at the Australian National Folk Festival in Maleny, but seems to be an adaptation of a fine New Zealand song The Gin and Raspberry, written by Martin Curtis."
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THE RUM AND RASPBERRY
(Originally The Gin and Raspberry, by Martin Curtis, NZ)

Searching for cattle - we first came this way,
From Talbingo township took many long days
To cut through the scrub till we found a good claim
And we called it the Rum and Raspberry.

The rumours went out and thousands poured in;
A handful grew rich while many grew thin.
They all hoped to find their own patch of ground
As rich as the Rum and Raspberry.
Chorus:
Oh but it's hard, cruel and cold
Searching Kiandra for nuggets of gold;
An ounce to a bucket - we'll all sell our souls
For the taste of the Rum and Raspberry.

At first it was summer, we all thought it grand;
No shirts on our backs as we sluiced and we panned -
But then came the snow and the westerly blow
And there's ice down the Rum and Raspberry.
Chorus: Oh but it's hard ...

Jimmy McGrath, he worked hard and worked long
Ready to smile or to sing us a song,
But then he struck gold and was found dead and cold
Down in the Rum and Raspberry.
Chorus: Oh but it's hard ...

I'll work out my time and I'll stay out of strife,
Save all me tin to send home to me wife
And when me time's done, I'll leave on the run
And to hell with the Rum and Raspberry.
Chorus: Oh but it's hard ...

But to hell with the Rum and Raspberry!

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 04:32 AM

I second the commotion on Out Of The Rain's singing of this on their tape Song Of The Wage Slave. It's a keeper.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 12:12 AM

Thanks, Bob. G'day yerself! Good to see ya!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 11:48 PM

G'day Kat,

As Dick Greenhaus remarks, Wongawilli Bush Band also do the song. (I presume that is on their CD released by Musica Pangaea.)

I can't see anything in either mousethief or Radiano's word's that looks very different from their version ... but, I'll listen when I get home, and if there is any difference I'll note it.

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 11:32 PM

Wow! You guys are great!

Richard, I saw that you had sheet music, etc. for the CD but wasn't sure about the tape. Word would be great. I'll PM you my addy.

Thansk, again!!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 10:21 PM

There's an Oz group called Wongawilli that sings "Rum and Rasberry" Same song.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 08:13 PM

I think it's a good idea to have both - there are slight differences in the two versions. Great song, isn't it?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: radriano
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 08:01 PM

Wow, Mousethief and I must have been posting these lyrics at just about the exact same time.

Richard

Subject: Lyr Add: THE GIN AND RASPBERRY (Martin Curtis)
From: radriano
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 07:55 PM

Hi katlaughing,

Here you are:

THE GIN AND RASPBERRY
Written by Martin Curtis

While hunting for Fox we first came this way
From Lake Pembrook township took many long days
We cut through the bush and we found a new rush
With a mine called the Gin and Raspberry

Chorus:
Oh, but it's hard, cruel and cold
Searching Cardrona for nuggets of gold
An ounce to the bucket and we'll all sell our soul
For a taste of the gin and raspberry

The rumors went out and the thousands poured in
A handful grew rich but many grew thin
They all hoped to find their own patch of tin
As rich as the Gin and Raspberry

At first it was summer and we all thought it grand
No shirts on our back as we sluiced and we panned
But then came the snow and the southern wind's blow
And there's ice in the Gin and Raspberry

Now Billy McGraw he worked hard and worked long
Ready to smile and to give us a song
But then he struck gold and was found dead and cold
Down in the Gin and Raspberry

So I'll work at the mine and I'll stay out of strife
I'll save all me tin to send home to me wife
And when the job's done I'll be home at a run
And to hell with the Gin and Raspberry

I have lyric sheets for all of our recordings. PM me with your e-mail address and I'll send you one. Just let me know what format you need - the file is in MS Word now but I can easily save it as a MAC file for you.

Richard

Subject: Lyr Add: THE GIN AND RASPBERRY (Martin Curtis)
From: mousethief
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 07:52 PM

Bok Muir and Trickett sing this. It was written by New Zealander Martin Curtis. CHords can be found on this website: http://folksong.org.nz/ginrasp/index.html

The lyrics are as follows:

THE GIN AND RASPBERRY
(Martin Curtis)

While hunting for Fox, we first came this way
From Lake Pembroke township took many long day
To cut through the bush and we found a new rush
With a mine called the Gin and Raspberry

Chorus
Oh but it's hard, cruel and cold
Searching Cardrona for nuggets of gold
An ounce to the bucket and we'll all sell our souls
For a taste of the Gin and Raspberry

The rumours went out and the thousands poured in
A handful grew rich and many grew thin
They all hoped to find their own patch of tin
As rich as the Gin and Raspberry
Oh but it's hard . . .

At first it was summer, and we all thought it grand
No shirts on our backs as we sluiced and we panned
But then came the snow and the southern winds blow
And there's ice in the Gin and Raspberry
Oh but it's hard . . .

(Young) Billy McGrath, he worked hard and worked long
(Always) ready to smile and to sing us a song
But then he struck gold and was found dead and cold
Down in the Gin and Raspberry

So I'll work out my time and I'll stay out of strife
I'll save all me tin to send home to me wife
And when the job's done, I'll leave at the run
And to hell with the Gin and Raspberry.
Oh but it's hard . . .

Come and drink up your Gin and Raspberry.

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Alex

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 07:22 PM

Damien Barber sings this, and I think he's probably recorded it.

Subject: Lyr Req: The Gin and Raspberry
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 07:20 PM

radriano and his former group, Out of the Rain do a beautiful job with this song on their tape, "Song of the Wage Slave." I looked for the words in the DT and did a Forum search, but came up empty. WOuld really love to learn it. Thanks for any assistance,

kat