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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Coyote Breath Date: 26 Sep 02 - 12:40 AM Be polite to the miscreant. Speak cheerfully to them. And when their guard is thus disengaged beat the living crap out of them. No? OK, no, that's right. After all we are civilized, aren't we? I have a slightly unkind word to say to JofH. Please use your spell check! Too much vigilantism these days, at least in attitude, probably the result of 9/11 (or 11/9 for those of you over the water). Maybe the result of overcrowding in our urban areas. Too much noise. Too many lights. Too many people. Makes me think that modern Western man is afraid of silence, afraid of the dark and afraid of being alone. JofH! Use the constabulary! That is what they are there for. Allow the judicial system to handle the "bad people". If the system seems to bog down on the niceities, CHANGE the system. Never, never, never atempt to insert yourself into a crime in progress (or just committed) because unless you have been trained to do so you can make matters much, much, worse. Had that youth actually stolen your stereo he probably would have trashed YOU in the bargain. CB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 25 Sep 02 - 02:31 PM Daftest thing that happened to me was when someone broke into my garage, and smashed the window by the driver's seat to gain entry to the car. Which of course was not locked, since it was in a locked garage.
But then I've by mistake left my car unlocked and with a window open all night, parked in the road, and nothing happened. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Vinland Date: 24 Sep 02 - 04:42 PM Reminds me of the time I had my mountain bike pilfered; made me very upset. Turns out my insurance covered it and I got a much better bike (the first bike was bought cheaply at an auction but was valued much higher). On the other hand, I've had my car window smashed twice in friendly St. John's, Nfld. Luckily, nothing irreplaceable stolen, but a real nuisance fixing the windows! There are "bad people" everywhere - maybe a little in each of us. Good advice, Rick. Don't tempt fate by having valuables on display. EW |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 24 Sep 02 - 11:29 AM A corollary to "Lead us not into temptation" is "Lead others not into temptation." I NEVER leave instruments in the car, even covered with a blanket (a sure sign that you're hiding something worth steeling.) They're always in the trunk. If I can't fit everything in the trunk, I put stuff in the car that wouldn't be a major loss (my cassettes, for example) or clothes.
Then, I knew someone who had an expensive guitar with a badly warped neck that he repeatedly left in plain view when he parked his car in New York City, hoping someone would steal it, as he had it insured. No luck. Where are bad people when you need them? :-) Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rick Fielding Date: 24 Sep 02 - 11:00 AM Hey Little Hawk!! You lookin' at ME? You LOOKIN' at me? YOU lookin' at ME?? I've had three very nice instruments (and a sound system) stolen over the course of thirty two years. It's very tempting at times to become OVER-careful, OVER-suspicious, OVER-cautious and in general "over the top" about security, both material and personal. When I look back though, it was ME that was asking for it as far as three out of four of the thefts go. Ie: Leaving a car idling while I bought FAGS!! (I got the car back, but not the wonderful 1959 Harmony Sovereign 12 string) Y'ad be surprised how many time I did that....another good reason for having quit. If at all possible DON'T leave yer good stuff in a car where people can see it. It brings out the WORST in some sad folk. I've spent a fair amount of time around "criminal element" people, and it's their similarity to "regular folk" that amazes me, not the differences. You'll never be completely safe, but try not to tempt the "easily temptable". Cheers Rick
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Sep 02 - 10:40 AM I'll agree with you on that, GUEST, and I think a wise society finds ways to provide employment for all its people (assuming they want it, that is...there are a few who don't, for various reasons)...rather than throwing the unemployed a few wretched crumbs of welfare money only sufficient to allow them to live like a beaten dog. The fact is, the prevailing system where I live, and in the USA also, WANTS a certain level of unemployment to be maintained at all times. That allows them to better control various things, keep wage levels down, persuade people to put up with lousy, marginal jobs, and keep bureaucrats and cops busy dealing with the human wreckage...else their jobs might be imperilled! (Well fed people do not steal loaves of bread, and they are far less likely to become drug addicts). Not what I would call a very wise society... - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 24 Sep 02 - 10:04 AM I don't know Hull Little Hawk but I think the biggest hell there may well be that little thing called unemployement. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Sep 02 - 09:45 AM Now if we could just find a foolproof way of defining "bad"...and "people"...and then put it together and define that. I know one thing, there are a lot of stressed out people out there, and it's not hard to see why. Observe their behaviour in one of our modern day hells, the traffic jam. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Blues=Life Date: 24 Sep 02 - 09:18 AM I agree, bad people should be punished. Why, just the other day, I was standing there, minding my own business, talking to a friend, when this fat guy came huffing and puffing over, grabbed me, and shouted "Where's my car stereo, you theiving bastard!" I pulled loose, and ran away, and damn glad I am that I did, because he was ranting about chopping my bloody fingers off, and about thumping me and holding me over a bridge, and... well he just scared me shitless. Something ought to be done. (There are two sides to every story. You can only control yourself. Being in control when the world is out of control is a sign of maturity. Anger is not bad, but losing control of anger makes you the "bad" person. I wish you well on achieving some inner peace, and on living a centered life.) Peace, Blues
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Teribus Date: 24 Sep 02 - 08:55 AM Wasn't it in Immingham that the guy from H.M. Customs & Excise took a second look at some pipe-work bound for Iraq marked "Oil Field Supplies" - they can't all be bad up that neck of the woods. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: kendall Date: 24 Sep 02 - 07:49 AM Some years ago, I was taking my rifle to a local gunsmith to have a new sight installed. Walking up the street, this idiot came out of a bar and tried to pick a fight! Of course the rifle was not loaded, and I ignored him. You gotta wonder what he was using for brains. I expect his head was little more than a knot to keep his back bone from unravelling. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Sep 02 - 11:33 PM Speaking of "bad people", some guy on the sidewalk in Toronto freaked out the other day, cos he thought I was "lookin' at him". He clearly thought that I was a bad person...I was barely even aware he existed prior to his sudden paranoid outburst in my direction. The sad thing is, there's really no use trying to explain to someone like that that you weren't looking at him in the first place, and what if you were anyway, would it matter? Best thing is, just keep walking. This kind of thing gives me the creeps. I would expect it in New York, but not in Toronto. I am glad to avoid the big city most of the time, even in Canada. And I am glad that he wasn't carrying a gun. He was unstable enough to use it on impulse, I'd say. I bet this is how some of the senseless urban murders occur on the streets of New York, Los Angeles or Dallas. Somebody thinks someone else is "lookin' at him". - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Sorcha Date: 23 Sep 02 - 11:24 PM I have several different "takes" on Bad People. I am the wife of a police officer, a victim of sorts, the mother or a perpetrator and a former albiet reformed (ummm, uhhhh, controlled substance??) user. Let me get back to ya'll on this one.........tis a puzzlement. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Bobert Date: 23 Sep 02 - 11:17 PM Hey, I can live with the dreaded banjo punishment. Seems *almost* humane. (Who do you think you are kidding, Bobert?) Nah! Fine 'em and stick in the pokey... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Mudlark Date: 23 Sep 02 - 10:50 PM Good thought, tho, Jerry...thinkin' outside of the box... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 23 Sep 02 - 09:37 PM Maybe if we gave everyone a banjo? ....naaah... :-) Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Mudlark Date: 23 Sep 02 - 08:49 PM Oh, for the good old days! Think it's funny to throw a dead deer down your neighbor's well? You get to carry water for them from the river. Think it's OK to steal a couple of sides of bacon? Guess what...that huge pile of wood needs splitting into little bitty stove wood. Overpopulation, massive towns have created towering bureauocracies, even for small towns, which have taken away the immediacy of *appropropriate* retribution. How does a fine, or spending 3 years (or more likely, 3 months) in jail, make up for having trashed somebody's house or stolen their treasured valuables? The perp. suffers and the victim suffers....where's the fairness in that? Aside from the real problems addresssed here, I have enjoyed this thread very much! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 23 Sep 02 - 06:03 PM Nothing humiliating about putting on a yellow jacket and pickingh up rubbish, unless you choose to think it is humiliating.
Being identified public as a bit of a villain needn't be the least bit humiliating either, could give you more street cred in fact.
The certainty of getting caught, and then having to see what it is you've done and who you've done it do, and doing whatever can be done to repair the harm, at whatever cost to yourself, those are the things with the best chance of working. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Bobert Date: 23 Sep 02 - 11:27 AM Well, I'm thinkin' that we're missing something here... Just who are the bad people? Pot smokers? Prostitutes? bert has a very good point in that we are using up tremendous amounts of resources investigating, arresting, trying and incarcerating supposed "bad people" for crimes in which there are no victims, other than perhaps themselves. Meanwhile, thieves, bad check writers, spose beaters are allowed pretty much a free reign to continue criminal acts without much interference at all from the law enforcment arm of society. This was the point I was trying to make earlier. When folks are allowed to get away with the garden variety crimes, it is no wonder that they move right up the ladder. Now we could devote an entire thread to environmental conditions that create such a sub culture of bad folks, but for here, I'd like to see the victimless crimes get less attention and crimes where there is a victim get a lot more. And I am very serious that for first time offenders of minor crimes, some level of public humilition is not out of order. I don't care if it's putting on a yellow jacket and made to pick up trash. Fines are too easy a way out. Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: smallpiper Date: 23 Sep 02 - 11:23 AM I wondered who those geezers with the white suits on were and what they were doing on the fish docks now I know thanks Skipjack. Hey don't forget the victims of the aledged victims of nonexistant crime ie those that are falsly accused - there's lots of them about. Teachers are prime and easy targets for disgruntled youth. Yet the aledged victims walk free after distroying a persons life... should that be allowed? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Skipjack K8 Date: 23 Sep 02 - 11:09 AM Where do you think the arms investigators have been for the last four years Dave?! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Dave Bryant Date: 23 Sep 02 - 10:00 AM As the song goes - "From Hull and Halifax and Hell good lord deliver me". I know that Hull has it's own telephone system (so does John), but I don't think they've got an independent nuclear strike capacity yet - so I should be safe down here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 23 Sep 02 - 08:45 AM Keevan: You have the right attitude. I don't blame anyone for getting mad when something is stolen. I certainly did when my son's car was stolen. But, we got it back a couple of days later, minus the stereo, but otherwise not damaged. The first victim of anger, hatred, and a desire for revenge is the person who carries those emotions inside them. Fair or unfair, it's the victim who locks themselves in a jail of their own making. At some point, you have to let it go, or you'll eat yourself up with anger.
I had a minister friend who told me about one of the first bible study classes he taught in St. Paul, Minnesota. Just to loosen everyone up (himself first, I suspect) he asked each person to tell everyone which biblical passage they turned to for comfort when they were distressed or depressed. The 23rd Pslam, "Yeah, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death.." was the most commonly mentioned passage. But, when he came to one old man and asked him his favorite passage it was "And it came to pass." He said that whenever he was upset, he remembered that phrase and he knew that it would come to pass. I wrote a song with a verse remembering that story:
"One thing certain we all know
I'm also glad to hear that Hull is not a complete den of thieves. I also wondered, perhaps it's a miss-spelling? I've heard people speak out in anger at "bad people" and tell them to go to Hell! :-)
Tie up your camel, John Jerry
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: kendall Date: 23 Sep 02 - 08:43 AM So, most of us have seen the video of that monster assaulting the 5 year old with her fist. What would you do about that if you were the judge? For the benefit of the non US Mudcatters, a woman came out of a store with her little girl by the hand, and when she put the child into the car, she looked all around, then slapped and punched the poor thing about a dozen times. She was caught on tape, and on tv she blubbered and insisted she is not a monster. In my opinion, she is a monster, and should never see that child again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 23 Sep 02 - 08:35 AM So John apparently assumed that having broken into his car and stolen the stereo (which he had actually left at home), the thieves carefully locked it up again? They must have some funny thieves in Hull.
We had a song challenge about a similar incident some time back. And here is the song I put in, in the Mudcat Song Book.
As John says, I prefer to know the facts about people who appear to be acting offensively towards others, rather than jumping to conclusions. People like John, in this case... But it must have been scary for the lad he jumped on. Mind, wearing a baseball hat and sports wear in a public place - that's really asking for trouble.
I had a car vandalised last year. I'd dearly love it if the police could have found the culprits, and if they'd been made to pay out of their own pocket the full cost of repairs, plus a reasonable sum over for the inconvenience, no matter how long it took. And it's wrong that it doesn't happen that way. But fantasies about vengeance over and above that are a waste of time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 23 Sep 02 - 08:32 AM I was just reading the upgrade thread posted by Max, and, I, for one, would welcome a spell check. It is very hard to follow someone's thoughts when their post is full of horrible spelling mistakes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: kendall Date: 23 Sep 02 - 08:29 AM Some years ago, my car died on a trip. I had to abandon it, and when I returned I found that thieves had stolen the carburetor. The bastards didn't know that the carburetor was the reason it stopped! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Skipjack K8 Date: 23 Sep 02 - 07:27 AM ..... but I fear the literacy hour will fall victim....... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Dave Bryant Date: 23 Sep 02 - 06:50 AM Look on the bright side, SKIPJACK - we'll definitely have pubs open 24 hours a day, no tax on beer, and the PEL law will be repealed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Skipjack K8 Date: 23 Sep 02 - 06:38 AM Incisive, Teribus. I distance myself from 9Ohn's press releases, but confirm that he is to be the Minister of Justice when the 9ull Takeaway Party sweeps to power in the 2006 General Election. Beware, you bad lookers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Dave Bryant Date: 23 Sep 02 - 06:21 AM The wife of a colleague of mine had her car stolen some years back. It was rather like the car that Jerry described, it needed a lot of work to get through it's next MOT test and they were thinking of taking it to a breaker's yard. About six months later the police told them that they had found the car. The thief had done lots of work on it and even given it a re-spray. My friends wife drove it for another three years ! A couple of years ago, I sold a car which had been sitting in my drive for over six months. It wasn't really a runner and I lent the two guys a tow-rope to get it home - they said they wanted the car for spares. Two days later the police knocked on my door and told me that it had been used as a get-away car for a robbery from an electrical store. Several witnesses had noticed the car because it had moss all over it and was mis-firing and smoking badly. I gave the police the address from the transfer document and although it was a false house number it was only 50yards from the thieves proper address - and they had the car parked in front! The police recovered all the stolen property - but I never got my tow-rope back - the thieving b*****ds ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Teribus Date: 23 Sep 02 - 05:58 AM Hi Skipjack,
"an Arabic philosophy, basically saying you can only go so far to prevent disaster, 'I have tied up my camel; the rest is in the hands of Allah'. " As applied to John from Hull's tale in his opening post, I'd venture to suggest that remembering where one tied up the camel is a pretty important part of the equation.
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Keevan6 Date: 23 Sep 02 - 05:10 AM Thanks skip......I needed that.........bless you. (remembering the past can be hard at times) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Skipjack K8 Date: 23 Sep 02 - 04:58 AM Keevan's half cent just got doubled. Think not what I would do unto others, rather what I will do unto myself. 'And this too shall pass' is a wonderful epithet, and useable when one is in the pit of despair. A saying my dear old dad used a lot was an Arabic philosophy, basically saying you can only go so far to prevent disaster, 'I have tied up my camel; the rest is in the hands of Allah'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: smallpiper Date: 23 Sep 02 - 04:37 AM jOhn clearly your brush with near bad people has upset you. But I must protest! Hull is not nearly as full of bad people as you would have the world believe. Just miserable people - look around you next time you walk through town and see how many people look happy - you won't see many. As for the kids you chased, well, perhaps you scared them so they won't ever be bad but will grow up to be model citizens and police officers so they can arrest people who are innocent and beat the crap out of them without fear of reprisal. What a wonderful world we live in. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Keevan6 Date: 23 Sep 02 - 04:37 AM well here's my 1/2 cents......for what it's worth..... About two years ago I was living in Baton Rouge, LA. as I tried to find a job locally, I left my apt. all day when I got home that evening, I had noticed that the window to our apartment was smashed and the front door was unlocked.......when I finally went inside, I was met with uttter devastation......anything that wasn't nailed down was gone.......my drums, my personal items.....everything. Needless to say, I was devastated........later when I calmed down......albeit after a couple of drinks, and a few close friends to help me through..........I began to realize that it was just stuff........it could have easily been me lying there dead instead of a few broken knickkacks.........the powers that be must of been looking out for me that day. the only good that ever came of this is the deep insight that PEOPLE and not THINGS and the most precious things we can ever hold dear.......for as long as we survive...our music, our hopes, and our dreams has a chance to live on Am I angry that this was done to me? I was at first, now I have a sadness for those that feel they must steal from their fellow beings. but I remember a quote that my mother (may her soul rest in peace) used to tell me often..."And this too shall pass" All we can do is try to forgive those who do us wrong, and move on with our lives........anyway......that's my 1/2 cents worth..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST,Clint Keller Date: 23 Sep 02 - 04:18 AM bert's got it. Certainty of getting caught and not being allowed to profit from it is the key. Severe punishment is useless if the bad guys think they won't get caught. Last time I heard police in our neighboring city, Spokane, weren't investigating burglaries at all. Too shorthanded, they said. So it doesn't matter much what the penalty is there. If every time someone tried to steal something a mean 19th century schoolteacher jumped up and cracked them across the knuckles with a ruler and made them put it back it'd stop theft a whole lot better than a death sentence that was never enforced. Only I don't know where to get the schoolteacher... Clint |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 23 Sep 02 - 04:13 AM I saw someone yesterday who looked bad, but he just had indigestion. He just happened to be standing next to someone who looked good, who'd just stolen a car. I say, bad people should be forced to listen to Kenny G 18 hours a day for a month. That'd stop 'em. :-) Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 23 Sep 02 - 02:52 AM What to do with bad people? The US is slowly discovering that the death penalty is a bad idea. (I support it but you can never afford to be wrong. You MUST never be wrong. No death penalty.) Chopping off hands and fingers? Same arguments as the death penalty. If guilt could be certain, I would support something public, like stocks. Humiliation is horrible. Lacking certainty, same problem. Let's stick with what we have, even if it doesn't work. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Bert Date: 23 Sep 02 - 12:30 AM I read somewhere long ago that the only real deterrant to crime is the certainty of getting caught. If our legislators would stop creating artificial crimes (smoking pot for example) our overworked police forces would be able to spend more time catching real criminals. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Tweed Date: 22 Sep 02 - 11:16 PM I say take them above the arctic circle and drop the bastards there in January. If they make it out alive they'll think twice about bein' bad people the next time. If they don't make it back, then no worries for the rest of us. Good on you John from 9ull, if they were hangin' round yer car looking bad, I reckon they were thinkin' of something bad when you stepped in on them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 11:01 PM Helo Mr Mcgrath, I did lock my car, do yoiu really think locking your car will put off te bad peeople? i thought you might anser this thread, i think you are a socil worker and to nice to bad people, they dont need talking to they need a gpood slap or a good punch inthe face to stop them messibng about.john Ps people ie bloody do-gooders are too nice to criminals , they need punish ment , not hollydays etc.john |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:54 PM If you bother to lock your car, John old son, it won't necesarily stop people breaking in, but it'll stop you thinking they've broken in when they haven't, and making a prat of yourself.
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:48 PM i can tell, they are bad preople because they look like bad people, and they was hanging around my car looking bad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Amos Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:45 PM Well, to start with, what givesyou the idea that these people are "bad people" rather than good people trapped in bad mental and economic factors which they should have controlled but couldn't see how to? Good people confused, if you will, do as much harm as these so-valled "bad people" which you like to assume are all over your town. If they are really dedicated to badness, the answer is, of course, to put more pressure on them than their local insanities are exerting. This can be accomplished by control, by scaring the bejeezus out of them, or by physical force. These remedies are effective -- long term -- in the order listed. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:44 PM xan we put john from hull in gaeol? he deserves it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:43 PM helloo, but if you do'nt put them in jail they do it again.john |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Bobert Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:38 PM No, no. I didn't say put people in jail. I said to bring in an element of humility and embarassment and nip some stuff in the bud early by enforcing lesser crimes, such as writing bad check ,petty shop lifting, ect. I'm for a lot less jailings... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:37 PM Hello Jerry, i got a car nicked as well , there is loads of car thiefs in hull, when i , got my car nickedi hpooped they crash it and get killed, it sreves them right, a few years ago, a man tried to stab me withgh a knife, i just come out of the army then and it was near a bridge, so i thumped him and i held him over the bridge, the police came and locked me up, i was charged with attempted murder, this is the biggest load of bullshit i have eber heard off, {the charges were droppped, but that is not the pint). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:33 PM I'fd bote fir: John from Hull, KatLaughing, WYSIWYG, and and Mr. Happy.
Mine last post im a simler thwad wuz deleted by a klone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:29 PM anywat i think Bobert, is exacly right, we shold be more touhgh on bad people and put them in jail.PS for a long time not just for a few days, i dont know waht ghappens in america but in Uk , they dont get much prison.john |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:27 PM Hey John, sorry you've gone through such crap. Someone stole my son's car a few years ago, and my wife had one stolen four years ago. The GREAT thing about the car of my wife's that was stolen was that the transmission was shot. I asked a mechanic friend of mine to take it out to test it with us, and the thing started heating up and smoking after about five minutes, and wouldn't go much over twenty. Every time I think of the creeps who stole the car, laughing uproariously as the hit the highway (just a few blocks away,) I picture the look on their faces as the car started smoking and they slowed down to 20 mph on the most heavily traveled interstate Highway in America. The Lord is good... :-)
Don't let the guest get you down about your spelling. For some people, spelling is ALL they have... Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:26 PM Quad Erat Demonstradum |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:24 PM just shut up gyuest, i asking mudcat people notnguests with no nams. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:21 PM i dont drink much antway, and iuf some one nick youre stuff you hace...etc Yeah, right John... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:21 PM i thought i put it in my car, this is because i Have got 2 cars, and i dont like talking to pweople with no names anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:17 PM i dont drink much antway, and iuf some one nick youre stuff you hace to do something, not let them get away with it.john |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:16 PM guest- you are right, i was not sure it was him , if i knew it was him I would not mess about talking to him, i would just smash his face in, if this sounds extreeme and unjust, then just ask yourself what you would do. I'd like to think I would have remembered where I'd left my stereo.
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:14 PM what would I do? i would stop drinking so much, and try to be more rational. you did ask.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:12 PM guest- you are right, i was not sure it was him , if i knew it was him I would not mess about talking to him, i would just smash his face in, if this sounds extreeme and unjust, then just ask yourself what you would do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:08 PM and anyway, i was at a folk session today, with Les from Hull & some other people, and so,e junky bastard came up to us and said" do you want to buy some CD's?", we said no thanks, as they were obviously nicked, and we do not buy stolen property, there is toomany thiefs and most of them steal to buy drugs, so i think they should give them drugs for free.john |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:07 PM John my friend. You chased after 2 innocent people caught one and falsely accused him of nicking your stereo. I believe you are good person at heart but in the example you quoted you didn't really demonstrate good behaviour did you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:01 PM stop drinking, cut down on the smokes, eat better ask me the same question then |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Bobert Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:01 PM Hey, this may sound like I'm kind of old school but I'm for something along the lines of "stocks and blocks". Not really, but some form of humiliation where by these folks, when caught, would be known to the community. Chain 'em to benches for a hour a day at the court house for a couple of weeks. The way it is now, theu get a fine, maybe do a few days in jail and then they're off. Another thing that needs to be done is to proscecute small offenses, ahhh, like bouncing checks. Our system allows way too many folks to get away with small crimes and offense and wonders why these folks go on to do bigger crimes. Hey, that would be a start. Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 10:00 PM what makes you think i am a bad person? wht? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bad People From: GUEST Date: 22 Sep 02 - 09:56 PM John, from the description above, you were clearly the bad person. Wht should we do with you? |
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Subject: Bad People From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Sep 02 - 09:53 PM What should we do with bad people? I have been the victim of crime many times recently, and I am sivk of bad peole doing what they want and get away wuith it, today i went to get my car back from the car park, I got in it and realised my car stereo was missing, i assumed it hadbeimg stolen, there was a pair of youths with base-ball capd and sports wear near my car, i ran after then and caught one, and gave him the caution 9"I am arresting you on suspicion of theft,you do not have to anything unless you wish to do so, but it may harm your defence, if you do not mention now, something that you later rey on in court.) well that's what i should have said, what i did say is probably along the lines of " Where's my car stereo, you theiving bastard?" he escaped my grasp , and ran off, unfortunately, as i am unfit and overweight I was unable to catch him, as it turned out, he did not nick my car stereo, I had left it at a friends house, but what should we do with bad people? hull is full of theiving scumbags, do we help them, & if so how, or punish them, ie chop their bloody fingers off? |