'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: mg
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 09:45 PM

I was glancing through the tabloids today and read about someone who was an actor in Hogan's Heroes who had escaped death by being a singer in the camps. It might have been the National Enquirer or it could have been another one of them. I had to run for a bus so I didn't finish the article.

mg

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: Marion
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 05:19 PM

Did anyone see it? I asked someone with cable to tape it for me, so if she remembered I'll see it eventually. If so I expect I'll be able to supply you with more details, Guest. All I know now is what the guide said.

Marion

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 05:17 AM

Alma Rose

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 03:46 AM

Oliver Messaien wrote his haunting Quartet for the End of Time when he was a prisoner in the Gorlitz concentration camp in 1940. It started as a shorter trio for clarinet, violin, and cello, because there were just those three musical instruments in the camp. He added a piano when he expanded it to an eight-movement quartet, and it was performed in the camp on January 15, 1941.

Of course the camps were not just designed for extermination. Only some camps in Poland were primarily used for mass exterminations, and then only starting in 1942, when the "final solution" was implemented in earnest. Even those were also utilized as labor camps, where the prisoners were worked until they died. "Straw man" arguments like this are commonly used by people who believe that the Holocaust is all a fabrication ("See, this isn't true, so it's all a lie")...but it's generally not a very sound or persuasive logical technique.

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 02:18 AM

Good film.

It helps dispell a hollacast lie, that the camps were for extermination purposes ONLY.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 02:14 AM

Most of us are not east-coast USA, and don't get Bravo (in Germany Bravo is a magazine, with a soft porn feature, were teenagers take their own nude photos)

GREAT Posting Idea...but...This is virtually useless to the MudCat Community....what is the Title, Producer, Director, Production Company and Copyright year, and is it available for purchase?

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: mg
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 12:25 AM

her name was Alma Rose' and there is quite a lot on her if you do a google search. Here is something:

http://www.schoenberglaw.com/exiles/rosea.html

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 06:58 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: mg
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 02:53 PM

There is a wonderful biography of just such an orchestra leader...her name was Rose something I think and she was the daughter of a famous musician and famous in her own right. Wish I could remember the name.

mg

Subject: RE: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 02:26 PM

Bravo? We can get that, but the channel normally seenms to specialise in clips of cops chasing people in cars and other off-beat aspects of American street life, very little worth switching on for. Thanks for drawing this one to our attention.

Subject: 'Bach in Aushwitz' on TV tonight
From: Marion
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 12:45 PM

Hi all. I saw that a documentary called "Bach in Auschwitz" will be on late tonight: Tuesday November 5 at 1am EST (Mudcat time) on a cable channel called Bravo. I don't get that channel, but wanted to point this out in case anyone wanted to see it, and was able to tell us what they learned.

A long time ago on the "Why We Sing" thread, I posted an article about a vocal orchestra that formed in a women's POW camp in Japan, and a guest asked, "Wasn't there an orchestra in a German concentration camp?" Nobody at the time seemed to know anything about it. It seems that the orchestra in Auschwitz wasn't underground like the one in Japan; rather it was one of the work assignments that a prisoner could be given. The musicians would play at officers' dinners and things like that, and would live longer than prisoners given more replaceable jobs.

Marion