Obit: Carl Wayne

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 01:25 PM

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Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: M'Grath of Altcar
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 07:45 AM

I think he sang the theme music to "Mister and Mrs"

Carl Wayne that is, not Johnny Briggs

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: Rasener
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 06:31 AM

Seemingly a young Johnny Briggs (Mike Baldwin in Coronation Street) sweet talked "Miss Diane" Lawton (Susan Hanson) in crossroads.

He gets everywhere

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 06:28 AM

How sad am I for knowing "Crossroads" trivia??? Shuey McFee anyone?

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: Rasener
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 06:01 AM

Thank you Super Ted. Can I now call myself Super Villan :-)

Spot on Super Ted

Carl Wayne
Appeared in Crossroads as the popular milkman Colin. He was the lead singer with '60s pop group The Move and also sang the theme tune to ATV's New Faces talent show. Married Susan Hanson, the motel's Diane Lawton.

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 05:42 AM

By gum Villan, that's what mudcat is for! Well posted sir. Wasn't Carl Wayne married at one point to an actress from "crossroads?" Can't remember her name, but the character was known as "Miss Diane"

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: Rasener
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 05:37 AM

Seemingly died of throat cancer.

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 05:22 AM

And of course his was the first voice on Radio One (After Tony Balckburn but we don't count him!). Wasn't the first record played there 'Flowers in the Rain'?

What a shame another of the greats has gone:-(

Dave

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: Rasener
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 04:25 AM

here you go. Long winded but informative.
The Move

BIRMINGHAM

Carl Wayne lead vocal (left 1970)
Roy Wood vocal, lead guitar
Ace Kefford vocal, bass guitar (left 1968)
Trevor Burton vocal, guitar/bass (left 1969)
Bev Bevan drums and vocal
Rick Price bass guitar and vocal (joined 1969 - left 1971)
Jeff Lynne vocal, piano, guitar (joined 1970)


One of the most successful pop groups to come out of Birmingham in the 1960s in terms of British chart success, they were also the hardest to categorize musically as their style ranged from pop to psychedelic, progressive, heavy metal, 1950s style rock 'n' roll and even country and western. Above all, it was Roy Wood's talent as a songwriter that propelled the band on an extended chart run. Many of the songs that Roy Wood composed for The Move in the first few years were considered by some to be drug inspired but in reality, a lot of his lyrics were written during boring lectures at the Moseley College of Art while he was there as a student. Despite the groups' controversial reputation and almost constant inner turmoil, The Move also laid the foundations of what was to become one of the biggest and most successful rock bands of the 1970s.

The Move was formed in early 1966 by Roy Wood from Mike Sheridan and The Nightriders, Carl Wayne, Chris "Ace" Kefford and Bev Bevan from the Vikings and Trevor Burton from the Mayfair Set. The original plan formulated by Burton, Kefford, and Wood was to form a group consisting of Birmingham's supposedly best musicians and create a look and sound similar to The Who. The Cedar Club on Constitution Hill hosted late night jam sessions and it was there that the future Move members first got together on stage. Singer Carl Wayne was invited to be frontman and Bev Bevan was chosen as drummer (see Carl Wayne and The Vikings).

After a debut gig at the Belfry Hotel in Stourbridge and further gigs in the Birmingham area, Moody Blues manager Tony Secunda saw them and offered his services. Tony Secunda was one of the more controversial pop managers of the 1960s and he employed methods that probably inspired Sex Pistols' manager Malcolm McLaren years later.

Secunda secured The Move a season at London's famous Marquee Club where they became known for their wild stage act which included flash bombs, smoke, and Carl Wayne using an axe to hack apart effigies of political figures and smashing up old TV sets. The ensuing publicity helped to gain The Move a recording contract with Deram, a subsidiary of Decca Records and publicity seeking Secunda made sure that newspaper reporters were present when the band signed the contract on the back of a topless model.

Tony Secunda also pushed Roy Wood into writing songs for the group and although his only previously published composition was a single B-side by the Nightriders, Roy came up with the inventive Night Of Fear for the Move's first single. The song borrowed the riff from the classical 1812 Overture and was released late in 1966 to reach No. 2 in the UK charts by early 1967. This was soon followed by two more Roy Wood originals; the driving I Can Hear The Grass Grow (chart position No. 5), and the ultimate paisley pop anthem Flowers In The Rain (chart position No. 2) which also had the honour of being the first song played on the BBC's new Radio One pop station.


The Move's success ensured them regular radio and TV appearances. However, an ill-advised publicity stunt meant to capitalize on a current news tabloid scandal, resulted in promotional postcards being manufactured that had a cartoon of prime minister Harold Wilson shown in a compromising position with his secretary. The PM was not amused and he took the group and their manager to court, suing for libel and winning the case. This resulted in the songwriting royalties for Flowers In The Rain being confiscated and donated to charities of Wilson's choice.

The Harold Wilson episode strained and ultimately ended the relationship that the Move had with Tony Secunda and the group secured Don Arden as their new management. Don Arden already had a reputation as one of the toughest managers in the music business and one whose methods were regarded as quite controversial, although he had pushed a number a groups to success such as The Nashville Teens, The Small Faces and Amen Corner.

In November 1967, The Move undertook a U.K. package tour which also included The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Pink Floyd and Amen Corner (the Move contributed backing vocals to the Jimi Hendrix Experience album Axis Bold As Love on the track You Got Me Floatin'). The group also released their first album and it reached No. 15 in the charts. Despite the success of their latest single Fire Brigade (chart position No. 3), all was not well in the band. Ace Kefford left The Move in early 1968 reportedly owing to nervous exhaustion and mental breakdown. He later formed his own group (see The Ace Kefford Stand). Trevor Burton took his place on bass guitar and The Move now reduced to four members, continued recording and touring. (Note: a version of Fire Brigade was also recorded by the Brum group The Fortunes).


A new Move single Wild Tiger Woman, which had controversial lyrics, was released in July 1968 but did not chart thus becoming the group's first failure. However, their next single, the majestic Blackberry Way, released at the end of 1968, was a No. 1 hit and became one of the classic songs of the era. In spite of this, Trevor Burton quit the band after an argument on stage with Bev Bevan during a show in Sweden. Burton was quoted as saying he "hated" Blackberry Way and was fed up with playing disposable pop songs. Burton joined Birmingham group The Uglys and was later in Balls with Denny Laine and Steve Gibbons (see Balls). His place was taken by Rick Price from the Birmingham band Sight & Sound.

The next single, Curly, was not as strong as Blackberry Way but still made it to No.12 in the charts and in late 1969, The Move embarked on their first tour of the USA. The tour was not a big success, mainly due to lack of planning and promotion, for although The Move had a more serious 'underground' following in America, record sales there were small with the only airplay on alternative FM stations.

On their return to the UK, they went, like many Midlands bands before them, on the 'cabaret' circuit which caused friction between singer Carl Wayne and the rest of the band. By this time The Move was again under new management from pop manager Peter Walsh who specialised in cabaret acts and had bought the group's contract from Don Arden. There were also disagreements within the group over who should sing lead vocal on the Move's singles and after the inevitable arguments, Carl Wayne left for a solo career. He went on to enjoy success as a cabaret singer and TV actor, even appearing on ITV's Crossroads series and in various London stage productions; a far cry from smashing televisions on stage with The Move. These days, Carl Wayne is lead singer for The Hollies - a position he has held since 1999 when he replaced Allan Clarke in that group.

The Move once again came under Don Arden's management and Roy Wood, now firmly in artistic control of the band, asked his friend Jeff Lynne from The Idle Race to join as Carl Wayne's replacement (see The Idle Race). Lynne had previously been asked after Trevor Burton's departure but had declined although this time he accepted the offer and the first Move single recorded with him entitled Brontosaurus, was released in April of 1970. To promote Brontosaurus, The Move appeared on TV with Roy Wood featuring outrageous clothes and facial make-up and thus pre-dating the "Glam Rock" era by a few years. The resulting publicity helped the single gain a No. 7 chart position.

Roy Wood and Jeff Lynne had an idea to form a new group that would incorporate classical instruments and create a sound similar to what the Beatles had achieved on their innovative recording of I Am The Walrus. Wood and Lynne with the financial backing of Don Arden, set about recording an album based on this concept and also discontinued playing live shows but in the meantime were required by contract to continue releasing and promoting records by The Move.

The recording of the new "classical" album continued at a slow pace and bass guitarist Rick Price left the group after The Move stopped touring, but new Move singles Tonight and China Town were hits and the group continued to make appearances on TV shows like Top Of The Pops. After a final Move album Message From The Country, The Move's last single California Man was released and reached No. 7 in the Charts in May of 1972. A b-side Do Ya, composed by Lynne, also became a minor hit in the USA, oddly the only Move song to make an impact on the American charts.

Finally, the new Roy Wood/Jeff Lynne/Bev Bevan album was finished and released under the name of The Electric Light Orchestra. A single from the album, 10538 Overture, made the top ten in the British charts and a national tour along with radio and TV appearances to promote the new band followed. The group by this time also included Richard Tandy on bass guitar (see The Uglys), Bill Hunt on piano and french horn, cellists Andy Craig and Hugh McDowell, and Wilf Gibson on violin. The album was a critical success, but sold poorly due to the experimental nature of most of the songs. Jeff Lynne would remark years later that much of it sounded like "a load of old dustbins falling down the stairs" though he has since acknowledged it as ground-breaking and innovative for that time.


After reportedly falling-out with Jeff Lynne about differences in opinion over musical direction and coupled with the difficulties in reproducing the Electric Light Orchestra sound live on stage, Roy Wood left the group in early 1973. He soon formed a new band called Wizzard which included former Move member Rick Price, drummers Charlie Grima (see The Ghost) and Keith Smart (see The Uglys), saxophonists Mike Burney and Nick Pentelow, and fellow ELO defectors Bill Hunt on piano and Hugh McDowell on cello. After a debut at London's Wembley Stadium, Wizzard shot to the forefront of the "Glam Rock" movement and released several top selling singles including two No. 1 hits in 1973; See My Baby Jive and Angel Fingers. Roy Wood's chart success continued until the late 1970's and after several years of writing and producing for other artists, continues to perform today with his own Roy Wood Big Band as well as making regular appearances on local TV and radio.


Meanwhile, the Electric Light Orchestra (or ELO) now under Jeff Lynne's control, along with remaining original Move member Bev Bevan, went on to become one of the most successful bands of the 1970s, achieving hit records and multi-million selling albums worldwide. Managed by Don Arden, ELO's spectacular success, particularly in the USA where they toured consistently and played to packed stadiums, continued until the early 1980s and produced many classic recordings, all composed by Jeff Lynne, such as Evil Woman, Telephone Line, Mr Blue Sky and Don't Bring Me Down amongst many others.

ELO disbanded in 1985 but Jeff Lynne continued to have behind-the-scenes success as songwriter and producer, helping to revive the careers of George Harrison, Roy Orbison and Tom Petty. He also formed the highly successful Travelling Wilburys with Harrison, Orbison, Petty and Bob Dylan and realized many a producer's greatest ambition when he produced John Lennon's Free As A Bird for the Beatles controversial "reunion" in 1995. He continues to be much-in-demand as a producer and songwriter of considerable talent and reputation. Jeff Lynne also finally went out on the road in 2001 with a new ELO line-up and album.

After a brief stint in the legendary Brum heavy metal band Black Sabbath, drummer Bev Bevan formed the Electric Light Orchestra Part II in the late 1980s which included some former ELO members and featuring songs on stage made famous by the 1970's version of ELO. The group toured worldwide for about 10 years until Bev Bevan's departure to become a part-time radio DJ and session player.



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The Move 1960s Record Releases (highest UK chart position in brackets)

Singles:

Night Of Fear/Disturbance (Deram DM 109) Dec/1966 (2)
I Can Hear The Grass Grow/Wave The Flag And Stop The Train (Deram DM 117) April 1967 (5)
Flowers In The Rain/(Here We Go Round) The Lemon Tree (Regal Zonophone RZ 3001) September 1967 (2)
Cherry Blossom Clinic/Vote For Me (Regal Zonophone) November 1967 (unreleased)
Fire Brigade/Walk Upon The Water (Regal Zonophone RZ 3005) February 1968 (3)
Wild Tiger Woman/Omnibus (Regal Zonophone RZ 3012) July 1968
Blackberry Way/Something (Regal Zonophone RZ 3015) January 1969 (1)
Curly/This Time Tomorrow (Regal Zonophone RZ 3021) August 1969 (12)
Brontosaurus/Lightning Never Strikes Twice (Regal Zonophone RZ 3026) March 1970 (7)
When Alice Comes Back To The Farm/What? (Fly BUG 2) September 1970
Tonight/Don't Mess Me Up (Harvest HAR 5038) June 1971 (11)
Chinatown/Down On The Bay (Harvest HAR 5043) October 1971 (23)
California Man/Do Ya/Ella James (Harvest HAR 5050) May 1972 (7)
Extended Player:

Something Else From The Move (Regal Zonophone TRZ 2001) (live recording) September 1968

Albums:
The Move (Regal Zonophone SLRZ 1002) March 1968 (15)
Shazam (Regal Zonophone SLRZ 1012) February 1970
Looking On (Fly HIFLY 1) October 1970
Message From The Country (Harvest SHSP 4013) July 1971


For more information, visit the official website of The Move at: www.themoveonline.com


People always go on about Liverpool for groups, but Birmingham in those days was absolutely heaving with very talented musicians.

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: fat B****rd
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 03:24 AM

I played a gig with The Move in 1968 and saw them several times since 1966. Roy Wood's songs, excellent cover versions and spot on vocals made them original and entertaining. RIP Charlie Wayne.

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: alanabit
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 03:11 AM

I am not sure that he did start ELO. I believe that he left The Move earlier, leaving songwriter Roy Wood to sing on their later hits. I think ELO was set up by Jeff Lynne and Roy Wood, the latter leaving to set up Wizzard.
I think Carl Wayne sang for TV commercials, as did Mike D'Abo, earning a better living than pop music could offer him. I am sad to hear of his demise. "I Can Hear The Grass Grow" sounded pretty spectacular in its day. I quite liked The Move.

Subject: RE: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 03:01 AM

The news yesterday said he died on Wednesday night, of cancer. Another golden oldie gone.

LTS

Subject: Obit: Carl Wayne
From: C-flat
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 02:52 AM

I was sorry to read today of the death of Carl Wayne(61), lead singer with the sixties band "The Move".
Wayne had a number of hits including "Flowers in the Rain", "I Can Hear The Grass Grow" and "Blackberry Way" before leaving the band which went on to spawn "The Electric Light Orchestra" and "Wizard".
The last time I saw him he was on stage, in the West End, in Willy Russells' musical "Blood Brothers" and I thought he was spellbinding.
Apparently, after a 6 year run, he left the show to replace Allan Clarke on lead vocals with "The Hollies", touring Britain, America, New Zealand and Ausralia.
No information on why he died, 61 seems very young for a man that ran marathons and competed in triathlons to raise money for leukaemia research, but sad news anyway.

C-flat.