Back Masking 1970's

Subject: RE: Back Masking 1970's
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 11 Jan 06 - 12:11 AM

Obviously, some poser did not follow the suggested links:

Except for a pathetic try with Hotel California....most are viable...renditions.

My question would be: what are the meanings in Sanskrit, or Hindi, or Finnish?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Was hard-rock the precurser to the world establishing ENGLISH (American) as the standard - and displacing French on the international forum?

Subject: RE: Back Masking 1970's
From: GUEST,s'0791
Date: 10 Jan 06 - 08:05 AM

skcollob rettu !!!

Subject: RE: Back Masking 1970's
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 06 - 06:37 AM

If you're not listening too carefully you'll hear some mighty strange messages when listening to records played forwards.

Subject: RE: Back Masking 1970's
From: GUEST,Anonny Mouse
Date: 10 Jan 06 - 12:17 AM

This happens to be a pet peeve of mine and other than a few times when some groups did it on purpose (like ELO) is baloney as far as it bein' real messages from ol' scratch. If you Google the topic you'll find some research done by some Canadian psychologists and audio people debunking all this. I call it phonetic coincidence. Fer some reason the words "yes its" or something close to it sung or said forwards comes out backwards something that sounds kinda like "satan." Go figger. But I did a seminar on this 'cause I couldn't accept a buncha folks goin around saying the devil was influencing kids in songs like "Stairway" backwards no less. Stupid. Vokey and Read were the names of the scholars who actually looked into this and wrote some papers & articles on it. You'll get 'em if you Google their names. Anyways-if you have the equipment try recording "yes its" a few dozen times and then play it backwards. So any song with something in it that is "yes its" or close phonetically will come out "satan"--and what about homonyms? How ya sposed to be "influenced" without a context for the text? Eh? All started with "#9" from the Beatles White Album and Paul is dead thing. 'Course Pat Robertson would believe it-probably burned some Zepplin records back when. LOL.

Subject: RE: Back Masking 1970's
From: michaelr
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 11:45 PM

Very cool, Garg!

I wonder what would appear if one played the audio book of "The Satanic Verses" backwards. Hymns? Stairway to Heaven?

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: Back Masking 1970's
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 10:08 PM

Interesting article in today's WSJ.....(much more germain to MC than wether Morris Dancers should "semper-ubi-sub-ubi")

Edited for MC discussion:

Dow Jones

Page One-A

January 9, 2006

Behind the Music:

Sleuths Seek Messages In Lyrical Backspin

Reverse-Play Audio Software Uncovers Smoke, Satan;A Led Zeppelin Enigma

By DIONNE SEARCEY

When Jeff Milner installed software on his Web site that could play digital songs in reverse, he tested it with a snippet of Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven." The song, heard normally, refers to "a bustle in your hedgerow." Played backward, says Mr. Milner, the line sounds like: "Oh, here's to my sweet Satan."

Today, Mr. Milner's Web site plays parts of songs from the Eagles, John Lennon, Britney Spears, Eminem and others -- both normally and in reverse. Mr. Milner, a Canadian college student majoring in new media, offers interpretations of the reverse-plays. A line in Ms. Spears's "Baby One More Time," played backward, becomes "Sleep with me, I'm not too young," Mr. Milner claims. What sounds like mumbling in Pink Floyd's "Empty Spaces," Mr. Milner says, becomes more intelligible in reverse: "Congratulations, you have just discovered the secret message."

Playing songs backwards -- a popular pastime from the days of turntables -- went out of fashion when CDs arrived. But now it's enjoying a new cult following thanks to Web sites and software that do the trick. Mr. Milner says his site (jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm1) has attracted more than 3.5 million visitors.

GOING BACKWARDS

Listen to popular songs forward and reverse2, and read the possible reverse lyrics. Also, upload and reverse3 your own audio files.Some bands deny engaging in the practice, known as backmasking. Message-hunters have said "Another One Bites the Dust," the classic-rock hit by Queen, contains the backward message: "It's fun to smoke marijuana." Says a spokeswoman for Hollywood Records, the band's label: "It's not true."

The search for hidden messages in music first gained popularity decades ago after Michigan disc jockey Russ Gibb, prompted by a caller, put a Beatles song, "Revolution 9," on his turntable and spun it backward. He said he thought he heard: "Turn me on, dead man." His observation fed rumors that Paul McCartney was dead. Mr. McCartney eventually turned up very much alive, but that didn't stop music fans from finding all sorts of alleged backward messages when they spun their other records in reverse.

Talkbackwards.com4, one of the most popular, allows visitors to feed in audio files, then play them backward. Eric Borgos, the site's 36-year-old creator, said he wanted to find a way to bring the former fad to the Internet, and to make it easier for listeners to uncover messages on their own. His site, which he says gets about 2,000 hits a day, offers no interpretations of reversed lyrics. Instead, it invites users to share their own.

Mr. Borgos thinks most alleged messages are just coincidence. "Mathematically, if you listen long enough, eventually you'll find a pattern," he says.

Daniel Berger, who lives in New South Wales in Australia, was skeptical when a friend told him "Stairway to Heaven" contained backward satanic messages. "Naturally, I thought the person that told me this was absolutely insane," Mr. Berger said in an email message. He logged onto a Web site to find out for himself. "There indeed was a whole new song there when played backwards," he said.

During the first round of secret-message hunting more than three decades ago, some parents, social psychologists and other critics worried a diabolical effort was under way to corrupt children. Some religious groups feared satanic messages had been inserted. Musical satirist Weird Al Yankovic seemed to toy with the critics in his song "Nature Trail to Hell" which includes a clearly audible backward message: "Satan eats Cheez Whiz."

The revival of message hunting has spawned new critics. Joseph Wasmond, president of the Knoxville, Tenn.-based Freedom in Christ Ministries, says he is concerned about secret messages because it has become so easy to share music files over the Internet. "There is the potential for manipulating people's behavior based on subliminal and subconscious music," says Mr. Wasmond.

But James Walker, president of Watchman Fellowship, a Christian group that studies religious movements and subcultures, sees the hunt for messages as harmless. "You could take a Christian hymn, and if you played it backwards long enough at different speeds, you could make that hymn say anything you want to," he says.

Hyperlinks in this Article:
(1) http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm
(2) http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm
(3) http://www.Talkbackwards.com
(4) http://Talkbackwards.com

Sincerely,
Gargoyle