Origin: The Country Gentleman (John Graham)

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Mo the caller
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 07:11 AM

As for what the dance is like, I don't even know what the tune is like, its not my cd, but my friend is not on the internet. He asked me if I knew at our dance club on Monday, its Sat now and the leaflet is about to be scanned to me, as soon as the authors permission is obtained. The power of the mighty internet eh.

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Mo the caller
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 06:45 AM

Well, you get your name on the list and can then have things emailed to you. The old messages are listed by title and you have to "page down" from the beginning of time (I've not explored them all yet).

If you know the thread title you can search here http://www-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu/htbin/hypermailnh/..ECDMAILFILE/ECD/

or at http://www-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu/ecd_archive/ you can choose to see the messages for any one month, but they take forever to download and you keep getting the message that is being replied to, ad infinitum, and all the computor code as well.

Mudcatis easier to find things on, even if most of the things on it are less relevant to me (not to mention utter nonsense).
The ECD site only allows relevant posts, and I get about a dozen emails a day from them (or you can choose to have a days worth at a time)

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 08:54 PM

I had assumed that it couldn't be that one, as it seems that you can only search it by message title. How on earth do you find things there?

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Mitch the Bass
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 06:36 PM

That would be the ECD mailing list. Details at http://www-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu/~winston/ecd.htmlx


Mitch

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 06:20 PM

Which ECD website is that? Could you give the url?

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Compton
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 09:12 AM

Well done, Mo the Caller...question now is...Is the dance anygood ...or is it like every other three couple / four couple dance that's ever been written ? !!

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Mo the caller
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 01:52 PM

Found it.
The ECD website came up with this.


"The Country Gentleman was written by John Graham circa March, 1980, as a commemorative dance in memory of four former members of The Headington Quarry Morris Dancers and ardent admirers of the social folk dance: Jim Phillips, Harry Kimber, Arthur Kimber and Charlie Jones.

I believe the dance was possibly only published locally in leaflet form, however the CD, "What 'Appens" was recorded by Steve Hunt, who may still be able to supply copies.

Anyone wishing further details please contact me directly.

Barry McNamara"

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:59 AM

There's nothing in Playford of that name, and the usual indexes don't seem to have it either. Your friend needs to give you full details of the cd, in case that provides a clue. I find no reference to it, so I'm assuming that it's a small-scale private release.

For one thing, we don't know whether Country Gentlemen is the name of the tune as well as the dance.

You might try a phone call to the Vaughan Williams Memorial Library. They have a very extensive dance index, but of course that may not help if it's a recent composition. The first step would be to contact whoever made that cd.

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Mo the caller
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:46 AM

I think its a UK cd, but no information on the label

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Compton
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:41 AM

I always love a thread that's dance related..Ther'es not that many dancers I read about on Mudcat.
"Country Gentleman" sounds the kind of title that should be to a "Playford" era dance...but (and I would be delighted if I'm wrong), doesn't exist over here in UK. Internet (Google) trawl doesn't bring anything positive out either.
Sorry Mo.

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Mo the caller
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 09:48 AM

I don't know much about it, but from the person asking it was more likely an English Country Dance/ Playford type thing than cajun

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 07:18 PM

A cd made by whom?

Subject: RE: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: masato sakurai
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 11:35 AM

Is this the tune?

COUNTRY GENTLEMEN. AKA - "Couche-Couche Apres Bruler" (Couche-Couche is Burning), "Don't Get Married," "Jeunes Gens de la Campagne." Cajun, Two-Step? USA, Louisiana. G Major. Standard. BB(Vocal)BBBB(Vocal)BBB(Vocal)BB. The alternate title is an old version of the tune. Couche-Couche derives from the Arabic word couscous, a concotion of salt, water and durum wheat semolina popular in France. Since wheat was not a Louisiana staple, cornmeal was substituted as the main ingredient (Francois, 1990). Related songs, identified by Raymond Francois (1990) are Jimmie Venable's "Jeunes Gens de la Compagne [1]," and Iry LeJeune's "Don't Get Married." Source for notated version: Iry LeJeune (La.) [Francois]. Francois (Yé Yaille, Chère!), 1990; pgs. 89-91. Goldband Records GB-LP7740, Iry LeJeune.

From here.

Subject: Information on a dance Country Gentlemen
From: Mo the caller
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 05:19 AM

A friend has a Cd "What 'Appens" with a nice track for a dance Country Gentlemen, 32bars, 3 times through. No info on who wrote the dance, the instructions or where published.
Can anyone help?