Tech: Netscape users, Opera users

Subject: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: Mr Red
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 06:46 AM

I have a line of Java in cresby.com to remove banner ads. My installation of Netscape does not respond to it and I don't have Opera.
Can any Netscaping, or Operative 'catters tell me if the banner ad vanishes automatically or if it needs a click on cresby.com to banish the banner.
I did install Netscape with minimal scripting and it helps debug the pages that way. Hence the preference of leaving . IE5.5 works as intended.

Subject: RE: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: MudGuard
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 07:19 AM

Did your provider allow you to remove his advertising?

Apart from that:

the popup vanishes after a few seconds in the following versions of browsers on my computer:

IE 5.5
NS 4.76
Mozilla 1.1
Opera 6.05

Subject: RE: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 08:53 AM

The UK2 popup window also goes away in NS 4.79 and Opera 6.0. The banner doesn't appear in IE 5.0 or Opera 6.); in Netscape 4.79 the "click-on" removes it.

Watch out for UK2, by the way. I'm trying to move a domain to a better registrar, but UK2 refuse to respond to messages from them...

Subject: RE: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 01:52 PM

Netscape 6.2 automatically removes the banner advert, but I can seldom run it without Windows interfering with it and crashing the programme. I suspect this is due to Microsoft deliberate sabotage so tend to end up using an old version of Netscape Communicator which is part of Corel Wordperfect office suite. This version has problems with Javascript giving the following error message
JavaScript Error:
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~cresby/index.html, line 13:

syntax error.

-->

.....^

Clicking on the Remove Banner Ad works okay.

Another worksround which can work is to set the HTML for your clicky to open your page in a NEW WINDOW. This seems to lose the banner adverts as you are no longer opening the pages within the hosts workspace.

Quack!
GtD!

Subject: RE: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 05:56 PM

I use Opera 'most' of the time these days..(but right this minute I'm in Mozilla)....I get NO pop-ups in Opera unless I specifically go to menu and allow them temporarily.

Mozilla also has extensive settings for security and cookies, new windows..etc.control...

I VERY briefly tried a version of Netscape 7, and found it tried to set everything to AOLs preferred defaults....BOOM...uninstalled it!

Mozilla and Beonex are browers run on the Gecko engine used for Netscape, but with no AOL settings...Opera is totally indepedant...

Subject: RE: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Sep 02 - 09:52 AM

Thanx folks. I think it is a Netscape thing.
GtD how do I use NEW WINDOW? if it invloves blickies I have that covered with a TARGET="_TOP" attribute on just about every link going.
Malcolm Douglas
I think UK2 has been in bed with Tiscali. I started to notice when I got e-mail refusals from relatives with full mail boxes. One dropped the satellite phone in the Adriatic and am not sure she works for that skipper anymore. Anyway until I got the story I went diving (header first) and found the Tiscali name embedded. UK2 have stopped spamming me with virtual offers so I reckon there is a new order UK2.towers
any other tests of my site welcome. TIA

Subject: RE: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Sep 02 - 01:43 PM

I get no banner ads in Opera, Mozilla, or Netscape 4.79.....I suspect AOL's version (Netscape 6 & 7)fights that sort of thing (banner elimination), since they are in the business of selling ads, pop-ups and such...same with M$

Subject: RE: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 24 Sep 02 - 01:03 PM

It is a long while since I had enough spare time to mess about with writing HTML. A project I did a couple of years back was done using FRAMES, but finally produced clickies to science based websites. I didn't want them to open within my Frame, so found a modifier which would open a New Window without closing the Frame. The one I used was TARGET="_BLANK" and as far as I can recall it forces the browser to open a new "clean" window to load the page into. The usage placed within the triangular bracket was
A href="http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/" TARGET="_blank"
I don't know if this works within one of these websites where your pages open within the ISP's banner space, but it is worth a try to see what result you get.
Please let us know if you try!
Quack!!
Geoff!

Subject: RE: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Sep 02 - 02:07 PM

Quick Quack

Subject: RE: Tech Req: Netscape users, Opera users
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 07:01 PM

I did it, I dit it.
used tek-tips.com and got half an answer
found grizzlywebb.com (frame busting) and found the problem is java 1.0 (Netscape) which does things differently to java 1.1 (IE 5.5).
the script I found caters for both and it works live!
another thing I realized is that Netscape is case sensitive in file names but IE is not. I know Iknow I should have tried all combinations but this was on another site and only relatives - who know nothing about HTML so no feedback! any day now I will use the same scipt on cresby.com.
If anyone wants the script I will PM or you can look at the site in a week.